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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>
Cc: Anil Madhavapeddy <anil@recoil.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Yang Z Zhang <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: NUMA TODO-list for xen-devel
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:00:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <501BAF5E.6080805@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501B9E81.1020302@amd.com>

On 03/08/12 10:48, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>> I think we could use cpu hot-plug to change the "virtual topology" of
>>> VMs, couldn't we?  We could probably even do that on a running guest
>>> if we really needed to.
>> Hmm, not sure - using hotplug behind the back of the guest might
>> be possible, but you'd first need to hot-unplug the vCPU. That's
>> something that I don't think you can do on HVM guests (and for
>> PV guests, guest visible NUMA support makes even less sense
>> than for HVM ones).
> I don't think that hotplug would really work. I have checked this some
> times ago, at least the Linux NUMA code cannot be really fooled by this.
> The SRAT table is firmware defined and static by nature, so there is no
> code in Linux to change the NUMA topology at runtime. This is especially
> true for the memory layout.
I was more thinking of giving a VM the biggest topology you would want 
at boot, and then asking Linux to online or offline vcpus; for example, 
giving it a 4x2 topology (4 vcores x 2 vnodes).  When running on a 
system with 2 cores per node, you offline 2 vcpus per vnode, giving it 
an effective layout of 2x2.  When running on a system with 4 cores per 
node, you could offline all of the cores on one node, giving it an 
effective topology of 4x1.

Unfortunately, I just realized that you could change the number of vcpus 
in a given node, but you couldn't move the memory around very easily.   
Unless you have memory hotplug? Hmm..... :-)

  -George

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-03 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-01 16:16 NUMA TODO-list for xen-devel Dario Faggioli
2012-08-01 16:24 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-01 16:30 ` Andrew Cooper
2012-08-01 16:47   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-01 16:53     ` Andrew Cooper
2012-08-02  9:40   ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-02 13:21     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-01 16:32 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2012-08-01 16:58   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-02  0:04     ` Malte Schwarzkopf
2012-08-07 23:53       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-02  1:04 ` Zhang, Yang Z
2012-08-07 22:56   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-02  9:43 ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-02 13:34   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-02 14:07     ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-02 16:36     ` George Dunlap
2012-08-03  9:23       ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03  9:48         ` Andre Przywara
2012-08-03 10:03           ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03 22:40             ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-03 11:00           ` George Dunlap [this message]
2012-08-03 22:34   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-06  7:15     ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-06 16:28       ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-03 10:02 ` Andre Przywara
2012-08-03 10:40   ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03 11:26     ` Andre Przywara
2012-08-03 11:38       ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03 13:14         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-03 13:52           ` Jan Beulich
2012-08-03 22:42   ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-08  7:07     ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-08  7:43   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-08-03 22:22 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-08-07 23:49   ` Dario Faggioli

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