From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
lenb@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Is: axe read_tscp pvops call. Was: Re: [RFC] ACPI S3 and Xen (suprisingly small\!).
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:37:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50803057.5000307@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd8748de-4715-499a-8c7e-745af37fa6c4@default>
On 10/18/2012 08:56 AM, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
>
>> Do you notice that the document you just claimed doesn't even exist at
>> this point, never mind being somehow enforced? In other word, there is
>> ABSOLUTELY NO WAY a mainline kernel developer can have any idea what
>> amount of violence Xen does to the architecture that it is parasiting on.
>
> Of course I know it doesn't exist. I probably should have
> noted that in my email. But it should exist because else
> subtle issues like this will get lost in the mist of time.
> And I have no clue how to enforce it (though some BUILD_BUG_ON
> might help).
>
Do you know for how long I have been yelling at various Xen people for
*not documenting their architecture*? There are plenty of
paravirtualized architectures out there which are perfectly well
documented and supportable, but Xen has resisted doing that for years,
and all we ever get are vague future promises.
-hpa
--
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-18 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-17 13:49 [RFC] ACPI S3 and Xen (suprisingly small\!) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 13:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/wakeup/sleep: Check whether the TSS GDT descriptor is empty before using it Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-18 0:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18 14:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-18 15:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17 14:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 13:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] xen/lowlevel: Implement pvop call for load_idt (sidt) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 23:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18 14:45 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-18 15:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17 14:36 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] xen/lowlevel: Implement pvop call for store_gdt (gidt) Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 13:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] xen/acpi: Prep saved_context cr3 values Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-17 14:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 16:03 ` [RFC] ACPI S3 and Xen (suprisingly small\!) H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-17 16:10 ` Is: axe read_tscp pvops call. Was: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 16:39 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 16:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-17 16:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-17 16:54 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 17:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18 15:22 ` [Xen-devel] " Dan Magenheimer
2012-10-18 15:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18 15:56 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-10-18 16:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-10-18 16:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-10-18 17:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18 16:37 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-10-19 15:48 ` Is: Xen architecture document. Was: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-19 17:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18 16:31 ` David Vrabel
2012-10-18 17:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-18 18:02 ` David Vrabel
2012-10-17 17:46 ` Ben Guthro
2012-10-17 17:43 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-17 18:00 ` Ben Guthro
2012-10-19 18:49 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-10-20 1:23 ` Ben Guthro
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