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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>
Cc: Keir Fraser <keir.xen@gmail.com>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: About vcpu wakeup and runq tickling in credit
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:16:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5086B4DF.6060701@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1350999260.5064.56.camel@Solace>

On 23/10/12 14:34, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> Hi George, Everyone,
>
> While reworking a bit my NUMA aware scheduling patches I figured I'm not
> sure I understand what __runq_tickle() (in xen/common/sched_credit.c, of
> course) does.
>
> Here's the thing. Upon every vcpu wakeup we put the new vcpu in a runq
> and then call __runq_tickle(), passing the waking vcpu via 'new'. Let's
> call the vcpu that just woke up v_W, and the vcpu that is currently
> running on the cpu where that happens v_C. Let's also call the CPU where
> all is happening P.
>
> As far as I've understood, in  __runq_tickle(), we:
>
>
> static inline void
> __runq_tickle(unsigned int cpu, struct csched_vcpu *new)
> {
>      [...]
>      cpumask_t mask;
>
>      cpumask_clear(&mask);
>
>      /* If strictly higher priority than current VCPU, signal the CPU */
>      if ( new->pri > cur->pri )
>      {
>          [...]
>          cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, &mask);
>      }
>
> --> Make sure we put the CPU we are on (P) in 'mask', in case the woken
> --> vcpu (v_W) has higher priority that the currently running one (v_C).
>
>      /*
>       * If this CPU has at least two runnable VCPUs, we tickle any idlers to
>       * let them know there is runnable work in the system...
>       */
>      if ( cur->pri > CSCHED_PRI_IDLE )
>      {
>          if ( cpumask_empty(prv->idlers) )
>          [...]
>          else
>          {
>              cpumask_t idle_mask;
>
>              cpumask_and(&idle_mask, prv->idlers, new->vcpu->cpu_affinity);
>              if ( !cpumask_empty(&idle_mask) )
>              {
>                  [...]
>                  if ( opt_tickle_one_idle )
>                  {
>                      [...]
>                      cpumask_set_cpu(this_cpu(last_tickle_cpu), &mask);
>                  }
>                  else
>                      cpumask_or(&mask, &mask, &idle_mask);
>              }
>              cpumask_and(&mask, &mask, new->vcpu->cpu_affinity);
>
> --> Make sure we include one or more (depending on opt_tickle_one_idle)
> --> CPUs that are both idle and part of v_W's CPU-affinity in 'mask'.
>
>          }
>      }
>
>      /* Send scheduler interrupts to designated CPUs */
>      if ( !cpumask_empty(&mask) )
>          cpumask_raise_softirq(&mask, SCHEDULE_SOFTIRQ);
>
> --> Ask all the CPUs in 'mask' to reschedule. That would mean all the
> --> idlers from v_W's CPU-affinity and, possibly, "ourself" (P). The
> --> effect will be that all/some of the CPUs v_W's has affinity with
> --> _and_ (let's assume so) P will go through scheduling as quickly as
> --> possible.
>
> }
>
> Is the above right?

It looks right to me.

> If yes, here's my question. Is that right to always tickle v_W's affine
> CPUs and only them?
>
> I'm asking because a possible scenario, at least according to me, is
> that P schedules very quickly after this and, as prio(v_W)>prio(v_C), it
> selects v_W and leaves v_C in its runq. At that point, one of the
> tickled CPU (say P') enters schedule, sees that P is not idle, and tries
> to steal a vcpu from its runq. Now we know that P' has affinity with
> v_W, but v_W is not there, while v_C is, and if P' is not in its
> affinity, we've forced P' to reschedule for nothing.
> Also, there now might be another (or even a number of) CPU where v_C
> could run that stays idle, as it has not being tickled.

Yes -- the two clauses look a bit like they were conceived 
independently, and maybe no one thought about how they might interact.

> So, if that is true, it seems we leave some room for sub-optimal CPU
> utilization, as well as some non-work conserving windows.
> Of course, it is very hard to tell how frequent this actually happens.
>
> As it comes to possible solution, I think that, for instance, tickling
> all the CPUs in both v_W's and v_C's affinity masks could solve this,
> but that would also potentially increase the overhead (by asking _a_lot_
> of CPUs to reschedule), and again, it's hard to say if/when it's
> worth...

Well in my code, opt_tickle_idle_one is on by default, which means only 
one other cpu will be woken up.  If there were an easy way to make it 
wake up a CPU in v_C's affinity as well (supposing that there was no 
overlap), that would probably be a win.

Of course, that's only necessary if:
* v_C is lower priority than v_W
* There are no idlers that intersect both v_C and v_W's affinity mask.

It's probably a good idea though to try to set up a scenario where this 
might be an issue and see how often it actually happens.

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-23 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-23 13:34 About vcpu wakeup and runq tickling in credit Dario Faggioli
2012-10-23 15:16 ` George Dunlap [this message]
2012-10-24 16:48   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-15 12:10   ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-15 12:18     ` George Dunlap
2012-11-15 15:50       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-16 10:53       ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-16 12:00         ` Dario Faggioli
2012-11-16 15:44           ` George Dunlap

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