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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:07:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50AE69EF.4060909@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50AE6542.3020302-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 22/11/12 17:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> The other thing that should be considered here is how utterly 
> preposterous the notion of doing in-guest crash dumping is in a system 
> that contains a hypervisor.  The reason for kdump is that on bare metal 
> there are no other options, but in a hypervisor system the right thing 
> should be for the hypervisor to do the dump (possibly spawning a clean 
> I/O domain if the I/O domain is necessary to access the media.)
>
> There is absolutely no reason to have a crashkernel sitting around in 
> each guest, consuming memory, and possibly get corrupt.
>
> 	-hpa
>

I agree that regular guests should not be using the kexec/kdump. 
However, this patch series is required for allowing a pvops kernel to be
a crash kernel for Xen, which is very important from dom0/Xen's point of
view.

-- 
Andrew Cooper - Dom0 Kernel Engineer, Citrix XenServer
T: +44 (0)1223 225 900, http://www.citrix.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-22 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-20 15:04 [PATCH v2 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
     [not found] ` <1353423893-23125-1-git-send-email-daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-20 15:04   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct Daniel Kiper
     [not found]     ` <1353423893-23125-2-git-send-email-daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-20 15:04       ` [PATCH v2 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE Daniel Kiper
     [not found]         ` <1353423893-23125-3-git-send-email-daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-20 15:04           ` [PATCH v2 03/11] xen: Introduce architecture independent data for kexec/kdump Daniel Kiper
     [not found]             ` <1353423893-23125-4-git-send-email-daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH v2 04/11] x86/xen: Introduce architecture dependent " Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                 ` <1353423893-23125-5-git-send-email-daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-20 15:04                   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] x86/xen: Register resources required by kexec-tools Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                     ` <1353423893-23125-6-git-send-email-daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-20 15:04                       ` [PATCH v2 06/11] x86/xen: Add i386 kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                         ` [PATCH v2 07/11] x86/xen: Add x86_64 " Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                           ` [PATCH v2 08/11] x86/xen: Add kexec/kdump makefile rules Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                             ` [PATCH v2 09/11] x86/xen/enlighten: Add init and crash kexec/kdump hooks Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                               ` <1353423893-23125-10-git-send-email-daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-20 15:04                                 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] drivers/xen: Export vmcoreinfo through sysfs Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                                   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] x86: Add Xen kexec control code size check to linker script Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:52         ` [PATCH v2 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE Jan Beulich
2012-11-20 16:40     ` [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <87lidwtego.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-21 10:52         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-22 12:15           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-22 17:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  9:56               ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 10:53                 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
     [not found]             ` <87txshx28b.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-22 17:47               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                 ` <50AE6542.3020302-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-22 18:07                   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <50AE69EF.4060909-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-22 22:26                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-31 10:50                         ` Petr Tesarik
2012-11-23  0:12                   ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  1:34                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:38                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:56                       ` Andrew Cooper
     [not found]                         ` <50AED7B8.7040902-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-23  8:01                           ` Bouchard Louis
2012-11-23  9:53                           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                             ` <50AF55B102000078000AABF3-ce6RLXgGx+vWGUEhTRrCg1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-23 10:37                               ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                                 ` <20121123103726.GB2921-UojuW/CpjwpdUOLzJiIvSsFoITBeLw/klGfBN0aaEZ+lPcVs/6D9LQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-23 10:51                                   ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-11-23 11:13                                     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 10:51                                 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 11:08                                   ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23  9:47               ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 20:24                 ` Eric W. Biederman

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