From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
Cc: Marcus Granado <Marcus.Granado@eu.citrix.com>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
Anil Madhavapeddy <anil@recoil.org>,
Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>,
Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03 of 10 v2] xen: sched_credit: let the scheduler know about node-affinity
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:56:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50D47898.2060909@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1356049122.15403.34.camel@Abyss>
On 21/12/12 00:18, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 20:21 +0000, George Dunlap wrote:
>>> - /*
>>> - * Pick from online CPUs in VCPU's affinity mask, giving a
>>> - * preference to its current processor if it's in there.
>>> - */
>>> online = cpupool_scheduler_cpumask(vc->domain->cpupool);
>>> - cpumask_and(&cpus, online, vc->cpu_affinity);
>>> - cpu = cpumask_test_cpu(vc->processor, &cpus)
>>> - ? vc->processor
>>> - : cpumask_cycle(vc->processor, &cpus);
>>> - ASSERT( !cpumask_empty(&cpus) && cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, &cpus) );
>>> + for_each_csched_balance_step( balance_step )
>>> + {
>>> + /* Pick an online CPU from the proper affinity mask */
>>> + ret = csched_balance_cpumask(vc, balance_step, &cpus);
>>> + cpumask_and(&cpus, &cpus, online);
>>>
>>> - /*
>>> - * Try to find an idle processor within the above constraints.
>>> - *
>>> - * In multi-core and multi-threaded CPUs, not all idle execution
>>> - * vehicles are equal!
>>> - *
>>> - * We give preference to the idle execution vehicle with the most
>>> - * idling neighbours in its grouping. This distributes work across
>>> - * distinct cores first and guarantees we don't do something stupid
>>> - * like run two VCPUs on co-hyperthreads while there are idle cores
>>> - * or sockets.
>>> - *
>>> - * Notice that, when computing the "idleness" of cpu, we may want to
>>> - * discount vc. That is, iff vc is the currently running and the only
>>> - * runnable vcpu on cpu, we add cpu to the idlers.
>>> - */
>>> - cpumask_and(&idlers, &cpu_online_map, CSCHED_PRIV(ops)->idlers);
>>> - if ( vc->processor == cpu && IS_RUNQ_IDLE(cpu) )
>>> - cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, &idlers);
>>> - cpumask_and(&cpus, &cpus, &idlers);
>>> - cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, &cpus);
>>> + /* If present, prefer vc's current processor */
>>> + cpu = cpumask_test_cpu(vc->processor, &cpus)
>>> + ? vc->processor
>>> + : cpumask_cycle(vc->processor, &cpus);
>>> + ASSERT( !cpumask_empty(&cpus) && cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, &cpus) );
>>>
>>> - while ( !cpumask_empty(&cpus) )
>>> - {
>>> - cpumask_t cpu_idlers;
>>> - cpumask_t nxt_idlers;
>>> - int nxt, weight_cpu, weight_nxt;
>>> - int migrate_factor;
>>> + /*
>>> + * Try to find an idle processor within the above constraints.
>>> + *
>>> + * In multi-core and multi-threaded CPUs, not all idle execution
>>> + * vehicles are equal!
>>> + *
>>> + * We give preference to the idle execution vehicle with the most
>>> + * idling neighbours in its grouping. This distributes work across
>>> + * distinct cores first and guarantees we don't do something stupid
>>> + * like run two VCPUs on co-hyperthreads while there are idle cores
>>> + * or sockets.
>>> + *
>>> + * Notice that, when computing the "idleness" of cpu, we may want to
>>> + * discount vc. That is, iff vc is the currently running and the only
>>> + * runnable vcpu on cpu, we add cpu to the idlers.
>>> + */
>>> + cpumask_and(&idlers, &cpu_online_map, CSCHED_PRIV(ops)->idlers);
>>> + if ( vc->processor == cpu && IS_RUNQ_IDLE(cpu) )
>>> + cpumask_set_cpu(cpu, &idlers);
>>> + cpumask_and(&cpus, &cpus, &idlers);
>>> + /* If there are idlers and cpu is still not among them, pick one */
>>> + if ( !cpumask_empty(&cpus) && !cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, &cpus) )
>>> + cpu = cpumask_cycle(cpu, &cpus);
>> This seems to be an addition to the algorithm -- particularly hidden in
>> this kind of "indent a big section that's almost exactly the same", I
>> think this at least needs to be called out in the changelog message,
>> perhaps put in a separate patch.
>>
> You're right, it is an addition, although a minor enough one (at least
> from the amount of code point of view, the effect of not having it was
> pretty bad! :-P) that I thought it can "hide" here. :-)
>
> But I guess I can put it in a separate patch.
>
>> Can you comment on to why you think it's necessary? Was there a
>> particular problem you were seeing?
>>
> Yep. Suppose vc is for some reason running on a pcpu which is outside
> its node-affinity, but that now some pcpus within vc's node-affinity
> have become idle. What we would like is vc start running there as soon
> as possible, so we expect this call to _csched_pick_cpu() to determine
> that.
>
> What happens is we do not use vc->processor (as it is outside of vc's
> node-affinity) and 'cpu' gets set to cpumask_cycle(vc->processor,
> &cpus), where 'cpu' is the cpumask_and(&cpus, balance_mask, online).
> This means 'cpu'. Let's also suppose that 'cpu' now points to a busy
> thread but with an idle sibling, and that there aren't any other idle
> pcpus (either core or threads). Now, the algorithm evaluates the
> idleness of 'cpu', and compares it with the idleness of all the other
> pcpus, and it won't find anything better that 'cpu' itself, as all the
> other pcpus except its sibling thread are busy, while its sibling thread
> has the very same idleness it has (2 threads, 1 idle 1 busy).
>
> The neat effect is vc being moved to 'cpu', which is busy, while it
> could have been moved to 'cpu''s sibling thread, which is indeed idle.
>
> The if() I added fixes this by making sure that the reference cpu is an
> idle one (if that is possible).
>
> I hope I've explained it correctly, and sorry if it is a little bit
> tricky, especially to explain like this (although, believe me, it was
> tricky to hunt it out too! :-P). I've seen that happening and I'm almost
> sure I kept a trace somewhere, so let me know if you want to see the
> "smoking gun". :-)
No, the change looks quite plausible. I guess it's not obvious that the
balancing code will never migrate from one thread to another thread.
(That whole algorithm could do with some commenting -- I may submit a
patch once this series is in.)
I'm really glad you've had the opportunity to take a close look at these
kinds of things.
>> Also -- and sorry to have to ask this kind of thing, but after sorting
>> through the placement algorithm my head hurts -- under what
>> circumstances would "cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, &idlers)" be false at this
>> point? It seems like the only possibility would be if:
>> ( (vc->processor was not in the original &cpus [1])
>> || !IS_RUNQ_IDLE(vc->processor) )
>> && (there are no idlers in the original &cpus)
>>
>> Which I suppose probably matches the time when we want to move on from
>> looking at NODE affinity and look for CPU affinity.
>>
>> [1] This could happen either if the vcpu/node affinity has changed, or
>> if we're currently running outside our node affinity and we're doing the
>> NODE step.
>>
>> OK -- I think I've convinced myself that this is OK as well (apart from
>> the hidden check). I'll come back to look at your response to the load
>> balancing thing tomorrow.
>>
> Mmm... Sorry, not sure I follow, does this means that you figured out
> and understood why I need that 'if(){break;}' ? Sounds like so, but I
> can't be sure (my head hurts a bit too, after having written that
> thing! :-D).
Well I always understood why we needed the break -- the purpose is to
avoid the second run through when it's not necessary. What I was doing,
in a sort of "thinking out loud" fashion, seeing under what conditions
that break might actually happen. Like the analysis with
vcpu_should_migrate(), it might have turned out to be redundant, or to
have missed some cases. But I think it doesn't, so it's fine. :-)
-George
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-21 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-19 19:07 [PATCH 00 of 10 v2] NUMA aware credit scheduling Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 01 of 10 v2] xen, libxc: rename xenctl_cpumap to xenctl_bitmap Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 9:17 ` Jan Beulich
2012-12-20 9:35 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 02 of 10 v2] xen, libxc: introduce node maps and masks Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 9:18 ` Jan Beulich
2012-12-20 9:55 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 14:33 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-20 14:52 ` Jan Beulich
2012-12-20 15:13 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 03 of 10 v2] xen: sched_credit: let the scheduler know about node-affinity Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 6:44 ` Juergen Gross
2012-12-20 8:16 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 8:25 ` Juergen Gross
2012-12-20 8:33 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 8:39 ` Juergen Gross
2012-12-20 8:58 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 15:28 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-20 16:00 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 9:22 ` Jan Beulich
2012-12-20 15:56 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-20 17:12 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 16:48 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-20 18:18 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 14:29 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-21 16:07 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 20:21 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-21 0:18 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 14:56 ` George Dunlap [this message]
2012-12-21 16:13 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 04 of 10 v2] xen: allow for explicitly specifying node-affinity Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 15:17 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-21 16:17 ` Dario Faggioli
2013-01-03 16:05 ` Daniel De Graaf
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 05 of 10 v2] libxc: " Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 15:19 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-21 16:27 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 06 of 10 v2] libxl: " Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 15:30 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-21 16:18 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 17:02 ` Ian Jackson
2012-12-21 17:09 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 07 of 10 v2] libxl: optimize the calculation of how many VCPUs can run on a candidate Dario Faggioli
2012-12-20 8:41 ` Ian Campbell
2012-12-20 9:24 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 16:00 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-21 16:23 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 08 of 10 v2] libxl: automatic placement deals with node-affinity Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 16:22 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 09 of 10 v2] xl: add node-affinity to the output of `xl list` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-21 16:34 ` George Dunlap
2012-12-21 16:54 ` Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 19:07 ` [PATCH 10 of 10 v2] docs: rearrange and update NUMA placement documentation Dario Faggioli
2012-12-19 23:16 ` [PATCH 00 of 10 v2] NUMA aware credit scheduling Dario Faggioli
2013-01-11 12:19 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-11 13:57 ` Dario Faggioli
2013-01-11 14:09 ` Ian Campbell
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