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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: Xen 4.3 development update, and stock-taking
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:29:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F82705.1000909@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50F8318C02000078000B6ED6@nat28.tlf.novell.com>

On 17/01/13 16:14, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> Therefore, if we want Ubuntu+Xen to have the same functionality as
>> Ubuntu w/o Xen, then:
>> * When the dom0 kernel is signed, Xen will need to leave boot-time
>> services enabled
> Once again - this is a no-go. All boot services memory got
> reclaimed by the time Dom0 gets launched, so there's no way
> for Dom0 to access boot services. Even Xen itself cannot
> arbitrarily use them - they get turned of near the end of
> efi_start(). Anything else is conceptually wrong, even if it
> might be possible to be made work.

Right -- well "this is probably impossible" is different than, "you 
shouldn't need to". :-)

>> So unless we plan to handle the same quirks in Xen, we're going to need
>> to make it possible for dom0 to do it.
> We will have to - see my other reply.
I suppose then we'll have to plan on it.

In that case, it would be good if, sometime in the next month or two, 
someone could take a look at exactly what these "quirks" are that Linux 
needs boot services for, and figure out whether we are likely to need 
them.  I'll put that in a sort of "call to action", along with any other 
important features not currently on track to make it into 4.3.

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-17 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-16 17:55 Xen 4.3 development update, and stock-taking George Dunlap
2013-01-16 18:03 ` Matthew Fioravante
2013-01-18 15:19   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 21:17     ` Fioravante, Matthew E.
2013-01-16 18:15 ` Wei Liu
2013-01-17 10:50   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17  9:09 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 11:12   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 12:51     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 13:58       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 14:15         ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 14:32           ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 15:26             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 15:30             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 15:48               ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:04                 ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:20                   ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 17:22                     ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:14                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:29                   ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-01-17 16:49                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 17:11                       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:35                         ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:43                   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 17:06                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:49                   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:30                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-18 15:24       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 11:20     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-21 14:12       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-22 13:53         ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-22 14:10           ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-18 15:22   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-17 10:00 ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-17 11:22   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:50     ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-18 15:21       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 15:33         ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-21 15:06       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 10:20 ` Olaf Hering
2013-01-17 17:23   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 15:54 ` Daniel De Graaf
2013-01-17 15:49   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18 15:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-21 15:04   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-22 17:42     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found] <mailman.21508.1358358967.1399.xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
2013-01-17 16:07 ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-22 14:32 Daniel Kiper

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