From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Scott Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3] QEMU(upstream): Disable xen's use of O_DIRECT by default as it results in crashes. Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:57:14 +0000 Message-ID: <5149A41A.9020300@eu.citrix.com> References: <1363609123-20748-1-git-send-email-alex@alex.org.uk> <51471767.8030604@redhat.com> <7AC8953FE45335FB794B6DFE@Ximines.local> <51471F14.7030209@redhat.com> <6D0F4ACDA3B7FCF1A50F8B52@Ximines.local> <5147298C.8080900@redhat.com> <51473E82.1020806@redhat.com> <861AFE1A9C44444FD8BAEE16@Ximines.local> <5147512E.5050501@eu.citrix.com> <5147562E.1090203@redhat.com> <5148414C.7060303@redhat.com> <51484328.4030301@eu.citrix.com> <5148489C.70808@redhat.com> <51484A2B.10202@eu.citrix.com> <0E09404F0675BA19C550B743@nimrod.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Stefano Stabellini Cc: Ian Campbell , George Dunlap , Ian Jackson , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , xen-devel , Alex Bligh , Anthony Liguori , Paolo Bonzini List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org Hi, On 20/03/13 10:24, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > That is true. My guess is that nobody really migrates HVM guests without > PV drivers installed (it's not even possible on XenServer but xl let you > do that if you want to). When the PV drivers initialize at boot time, > the IDE disk is closed. Therefore we wouldn't have this problem. > > Maybe we should prevent HVM guest migration without PV drivers with xl > too. Ian, what do you think? Although it's not normally possible on XenServer to migrate HVM guests without PV drivers, a lot of people override the check and do it anyway. It happens a lot in cloud scenarios where the host (XenServer) admin is different from the guest admin (the end customer) and it's impractical for the host admin to force the guest admin to load the drivers. We do our best to recommend, encourage and help people to install HVM PV drivers but we have to tolerate those who ignore our advice :/ Cheers, Dave