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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: "Pasi Kärkkäinen" <pasik@iki.fi>
Cc: "sstanisi@cbnco.com" <sstanisi@cbnco.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] xl: Add commands for usb hot-plug
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:48:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51793439.7050606@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130425134252.GP11427@reaktio.net>

On 04/25/2013 02:42 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:57:50PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
>> On 04/25/2013 12:38 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 11:16 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
>>>>>> +    for (i = 0; i < num; i++) {
>>>>>> +        printf("%8s  ", (dev[i].protocol==LIBXL_USB_PROTOCOL_PV)?"pv":"dm");
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use libxl_usb_protocol_to_string here.
>>>>
>>>> Could do, but I didn't necessarily want the long version ("devicemodel").
>>>
>>> TBH the more I think about it the more I think DM/DEVICEMODEL in this
>>> interface is leaking an implementation detail, after all the user
>>> doesn't really care who/what is emulating a USB controller.
>>>
>>> Protocol = {PV,OHCI,XHCI}?
>>
>> As we covered before:
>>
>> 1. I have no way of selecting OHCI vs XHCI at this point
>>
>
> https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/docs/usb2.txt
>
> qemu -device usb-ehci,id=ehci \
>       -device usb-tablet,bus=usb-bus.0 \
>       -device usb-storage,bus=ehci.0,drive=usbstick
>
> "This attaches a usb tablet to the UHCI adapter and a usb mass storage
> device to the EHCI adapter."
>
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2012-05/msg04013.html
> qemu $args -device nec-usb-xhci,id=xhci -device usb-tablet,bus=xhci.0
>
> http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/qemu-kvm-11-adds-experimental-support-usb-30
> qemu-kvm -device nec-usb-xhci,id=xhci -device usb-storage,bus=xhci.0,drive=usbstick
>
>
> So it seems it's possible to create ehci/usb2.0 and xhci/usb3.0 controllers as needed,
> and attach devices to both of them by specifying the virtual bus..
>
>
>
>> 2. Even if I did, why should the caller have to keep track of what
>> kind of USB hardware is exposed to the guest?  They should be able
>> to just say "Add" and have stuff sorted out.
>>
>
> Compatibility might be one reason why users want to specify specific virtual controller..
> ie. some usb 2.0 devices don't work properly in usb 3.0 controllers, unfortunately..

I'll take a look at implementing some of this when I come back to this 
series after the 4.3 release.   But it seems like having a "controller 
type" option in the device field might be useful.

We should also look and see what libvirt exposes, at least for KVM, to 
get an idea what kinds of things might be useful to implement.

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-25 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-19 15:59 [PATCH v6 1/2] libxl: Introduce functions to add and remove USB devices to an HVM guest George Dunlap
2013-04-19 15:59 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] xl: Add commands for usb hot-plug George Dunlap
2013-04-24 12:45   ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-25 10:16     ` George Dunlap
2013-04-25 11:38       ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-25 11:57         ` George Dunlap
2013-04-25 12:04           ` George Dunlap
2013-04-25 12:08           ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-25 12:14             ` George Dunlap
2013-04-25 12:21               ` George Dunlap
2013-04-25 12:45                 ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-25 12:47               ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-25 13:42           ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-04-25 13:48             ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-04-24 11:56 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] libxl: Introduce functions to add and remove USB devices to an HVM guest Ian Campbell
2013-04-24 12:48   ` George Dunlap
2013-04-24 12:53     ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-24 13:37       ` George Dunlap
2013-04-24 13:53         ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-24 12:38 ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-24 13:32   ` George Dunlap
2013-04-24 13:47     ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-24 13:51     ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-24 15:45       ` George Dunlap
2013-04-24 15:51         ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-24 17:49           ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-04-25  7:44             ` Ian Campbell
2013-04-25  7:54               ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-04-25  9:56               ` George Dunlap
2013-04-25 10:17                 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-04-25 14:19 ` Anthony PERARD
2013-04-25 14:31   ` George Dunlap

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