From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>
Cc: "Keir (Xen.org)" <keir@xen.org>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/watchdog: Use real timestamps for watchdog timeout
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 11:33:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <519F41F1.6050402@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130524101312.GB54769@ocelot.phlegethon.org>
On 24/05/13 11:13, Tim Deegan wrote:
> At 10:57 +0100 on 24 May (1369393060), Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 24/05/13 08:09, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> You can't use NOW() here - while the time updating code is safe
>>> against normal interrupts, it's not atomic wrt NMIs.
>> But NMIs are latched at the hardware level. If we get a nested NMI the
>> Xen will be toast on the exit path anyway.
> The problem is that an NMI can arrive while local_time_calibration() is
> writing its results, so calling NOW() in the NMI handler might return
> garbage.
Aah - I see. Sorry - I misunderstood the original point.
Yes - that is an issue.
Two solutions come to mind.
1) Along with the local_irq_disable()/enable() pairs in
local_time_calibration, having an atomic_t indicating "time data update
in progress", allowing the NMI handler to decide to bail early.
2) Modify local_time_calibration() to fill in a shadow cpu_time set, and
a different atomic_t to indicate which one is consistent. This would
allow the NMI handler to always use one consistent set of timing
information.
>
>>> Handling this case it nice, but I wonder whether this patch ought to
>>> detect and report ludicrous NMI rates rather than silently ignoring
>>> them. I guess that's hard to do in an NMI handler, other than by
>>> adjusting the printk when we crash.
> Actually on second thoughts it's easier: as well as having this patch
> (or near equivalent) to avoid premature watchdog expiry, we cna detect
> the NMI rate in, say, the timer softirq and report if it's gone mad.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim.
I was thinking along that line, but had not yet worked out where to put
it. That looks like the best place.
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-24 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-23 20:32 [PATCH] x86/watchdog: Use real timestamps for watchdog timeout Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 7:09 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 9:57 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 10:13 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 10:33 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2013-05-24 11:42 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 12:00 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 13:11 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 11:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 12:41 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 12:48 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 13:55 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 14:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 17:10 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 17:27 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 13:17 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 14:01 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 9:37 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 10:03 ` Andrew Cooper
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