From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Keir (Xen.org)" <keir@xen.org>, "Tim (Xen.org)" <tim@xen.org>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/watchdog: Use real timestamps for watchdog timeout
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 13:00:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <519F5674.4010505@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519F6E4002000078000D8C11@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
On 24/05/13 12:42, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 24.05.13 at 12:33, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 24/05/13 11:13, Tim Deegan wrote:
>>> At 10:57 +0100 on 24 May (1369393060), Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> On 24/05/13 08:09, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> You can't use NOW() here - while the time updating code is safe
>>>>> against normal interrupts, it's not atomic wrt NMIs.
>>>> But NMIs are latched at the hardware level. If we get a nested NMI the
>>>> Xen will be toast on the exit path anyway.
>>> The problem is that an NMI can arrive while local_time_calibration() is
>>> writing its results, so calling NOW() in the NMI handler might return
>>> garbage.
>> Aah - I see. Sorry - I misunderstood the original point.
>>
>> Yes - that is an issue.
>>
>> Two solutions come to mind.
>>
>> 1) Along with the local_irq_disable()/enable() pairs in
>> local_time_calibration, having an atomic_t indicating "time data update
>> in progress", allowing the NMI handler to decide to bail early.
>>
>> 2) Modify local_time_calibration() to fill in a shadow cpu_time set, and
>> a different atomic_t to indicate which one is consistent. This would
>> allow the NMI handler to always use one consistent set of timing
>> information.
> What's the advantage of either over using the plain TSC values?
> Accuracy of the expiry, but the accuracy here doesn't matter
> much (as long as its not off by an order of a magnitude), and
> would be achieved by some presumably not very neat code of no
> other (general) use.
>
> And if picking up one of these, then 2 seems the preferable one to
> me.
>
> Jan
>
The TSC scale is recalculated as part of local_time_calibration(). I
couldn't spot any other sensible way of converting a TSC delta to
something approximating seconds. Have I missed something?
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-24 12:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-23 20:32 [PATCH] x86/watchdog: Use real timestamps for watchdog timeout Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 7:09 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 9:57 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 10:13 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 10:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 11:42 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 12:00 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2013-05-24 13:11 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 11:36 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 12:41 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 12:48 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 13:55 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 14:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 17:10 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 17:27 ` Andrew Cooper
2013-05-24 13:17 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-24 14:01 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 9:37 ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-24 10:03 ` Andrew Cooper
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