From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jiannan Ouyang <ouyang@cs.pitt.edu>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
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Srivatsa Vaddagiri <srivatsa.vaddagiri@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 11:51:36 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51AC35F0.4010400@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51ABF410.4090109@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 06/03/2013 07:10 AM, Raghavendra K T wrote:
> On 06/02/2013 09:50 PM, Jiannan Ouyang wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> High level question here. We have a big hope for "Preemptable Ticket
>>> Spinlock" patch series by Jiannan Ouyang to solve most, if not all,
>>> ticketing spinlocks in overcommit scenarios problem without need for PV.
>>> So how this patch series compares with his patches on PLE enabled
>>> processors?
>>>
>>
>> No experiment results yet.
>>
>> An error is reported on a 20 core VM. I'm during an internship
>> relocation, and will start work on it next week.
>
> Preemptable spinlocks' testing update:
> I hit the same softlockup problem while testing on 32 core machine with
> 32 guest vcpus that Andrew had reported.
>
> After that i started tuning TIMEOUT_UNIT, and when I went till (1<<8),
> things seemed to be manageable for undercommit cases.
> But I still see degradation for undercommit w.r.t baseline itself on 32
> core machine (after tuning).
>
> (37.5% degradation w.r.t base line).
> I can give the full report after the all tests complete.
>
> For over-commit cases, I again started hitting softlockups (and
> degradation is worse). But as I said in the preemptable thread, the
> concept of preemptable locks looks promising (though I am still not a
> fan of embedded TIMEOUT mechanism)
>
> Here is my opinion of TODOs for preemptable locks to make it better ( I
> think I need to paste in the preemptable thread also)
>
> 1. Current TIMEOUT UNIT seem to be on higher side and also it does not
> scale well with large guests and also overcommit. we need to have a
> sort of adaptive mechanism and better is sort of different TIMEOUT_UNITS
> for different types of lock too. The hashing mechanism that was used in
> Rik's spinlock backoff series fits better probably.
>
> 2. I do not think TIMEOUT_UNIT itself would work great when we have a
> big queue (for large guests / overcommits) for lock.
> one way is to add a PV hook that does yield hypercall immediately for
> the waiters above some THRESHOLD so that they don't burn the CPU.
> ( I can do POC to check if that idea works in improving situation
> at some later point of time)
>
Preemptable-lock results from my run with 2^8 TIMEOUT:
+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+-----------+
ebizzy (records/sec) higher is better
+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+-----------+
base stdev patched stdev %improvement
+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+-----------+
1x 5574.9000 237.4997 3484.2000 113.4449 -37.50202
2x 2741.5000 561.3090 351.5000 140.5420 -87.17855
3x 2146.2500 216.7718 194.8333 85.0303 -90.92215
4x 1663.0000 141.9235 101.0000 57.7853 -93.92664
+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+-----------+
+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+-----------+
dbench (Throughput) higher is better
+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+-----------+
base stdev patched stdev %improvement
+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+-----------+
1x 14111.5600 754.4525 3930.1602 2547.2369 -72.14936
2x 2481.6270 71.2665 181.1816 89.5368 -92.69908
3x 1510.2483 31.8634 104.7243 53.2470 -93.06576
4x 1029.4875 16.9166 72.3738 38.2432 -92.96992
+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+-----------+
Note we can not trust on overcommit results because of softlock-ups
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-03 6:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-01 19:21 [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH RFC V9 1/19] x86/spinlock: Replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 20:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-02 6:54 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 2/19] x86/ticketlock: Don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 3/19] x86/ticketlock: Collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 4/19] xen: Defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 5/19] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:03 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:21 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 6/19] xen/pvticketlocks: Add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 7/19] x86/pvticketlock: Use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 8/19] x86/pvticketlock: When paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:53 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 9/19] Split out rate limiting from jump_label.h Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:56 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:15 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 10/19] x86/ticketlock: Add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 11/19] xen/pvticketlock: Allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 12/19] xen: Enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:16 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04 14:44 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 15:00 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 13/19] kvm hypervisor : Add a hypercall to KVM hypervisor to support pv-ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 14/19] kvm : Fold pv_unhalt flag into GET_MP_STATE ioctl to aid migration Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 15/19] kvm guest : Add configuration support to enable debug information for KVM Guests Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 16/19] kvm : Paravirtual ticketlocks support for linux guests running on KVM hypervisor Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:19 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 17/19] kvm hypervisor : Simplify kvm_for_each_vcpu with kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 18/19] Documentation/kvm : Add documentation on Hypercalls and features used for PV spinlock Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 19/19] kvm hypervisor: Add directed yield in vcpu block path Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:05 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 7:28 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-02 8:07 ` [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 16:20 ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-03 1:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 6:21 ` Raghavendra K T [this message]
2013-06-07 6:15 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-07 13:29 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-07 23:41 ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-25 14:50 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-26 8:45 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 11:37 ` Andrew Jones
2013-06-26 12:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 13:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 14:39 ` Chegu Vinod
2013-06-26 15:37 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 16:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 17:54 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-09 9:11 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 10:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-10 10:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:28 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 15:03 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 15:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 0:12 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 11:24 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:50 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 9:13 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 9:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:10 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:53 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 11:14 ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 14:13 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-26 15:56 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-07-01 9:30 ` Raghavendra K T
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-01 8:21 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` Raghavendra KT
2013-06-01 20:14 ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-01 20:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-01 20:46 ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-04 10:58 ` Raghavendra K T
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