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From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:15:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CAAA26.4090204@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1372171802.3804.30.camel@oc2024037011.ibm.com>

On 06/25/2013 08:20 PM, Andrew Theurer wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-06-02 at 00:51 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>> This series replaces the existing paravirtualized spinlock mechanism
>> with a paravirtualized ticketlock mechanism. The series provides
>> implementation for both Xen and KVM.
>>
>> Changes in V9:
>> - Changed spin_threshold to 32k to avoid excess halt exits that are
>>     causing undercommit degradation (after PLE handler improvement).
>> - Added  kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic (suggested by Gleb)
>> - Optimized halt exit path to use PLE handler
>>
>> V8 of PVspinlock was posted last year. After Avi's suggestions to look
>> at PLE handler's improvements, various optimizations in PLE handling
>> have been tried.
>
> Sorry for not posting this sooner.  I have tested the v9 pv-ticketlock
> patches in 1x and 2x over-commit with 10-vcpu and 20-vcpu VMs.  I have
> tested these patches with and without PLE, as PLE is still not scalable
> with large VMs.
>

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for testing.

> System: x3850X5, 40 cores, 80 threads
>
>
> 1x over-commit with 10-vCPU VMs (8 VMs) all running dbench:
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 						Total
> Configuration				Throughput(MB/s)	Notes
>
> 3.10-default-ple_on			22945			5% CPU in host kernel, 2% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-default-ple_off			23184			5% CPU in host kernel, 2% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-pvticket-ple_on			22895			5% CPU in host kernel, 2% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-pvticket-ple_off			23051			5% CPU in host kernel, 2% spin_lock in guests
> [all 1x results look good here]

Yes. The 1x results look too close

>
>
> 2x over-commit with 10-vCPU VMs (16 VMs) all running dbench:
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 						Total
> Configuration				Throughput		Notes
>
> 3.10-default-ple_on			 6287			55% CPU  host kernel, 17% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-default-ple_off			 1849			2% CPU in host kernel, 95% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-pvticket-ple_on			 6691			50% CPU in host kernel, 15% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-pvticket-ple_off			16464			8% CPU in host kernel, 33% spin_lock in guests

I see 6.426% improvement with ple_on
and 161.87% improvement with ple_off. I think this is a very good sign
  for the patches

> [PLE hinders pv-ticket improvements, but even with PLE off,
>   we still off from ideal throughput (somewhere >20000)]
>

Okay, The ideal throughput you are referring is getting around atleast
80% of 1x throughput for over-commit. Yes we are still far away from
there.

>
> 1x over-commit with 20-vCPU VMs (4 VMs) all running dbench:
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 						Total
> Configuration				Throughput		Notes
>
> 3.10-default-ple_on			22736			6% CPU in host kernel, 3% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-default-ple_off			23377			5% CPU in host kernel, 3% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-pvticket-ple_on			22471			6% CPU in host kernel, 3% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-pvticket-ple_off			23445			5% CPU in host kernel, 3% spin_lock in guests
> [1x looking fine here]
>

I see ple_off is little better here.

>
> 2x over-commit with 20-vCPU VMs (8 VMs) all running dbench:
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> 						Total
> Configuration				Throughput		Notes
>
> 3.10-default-ple_on			 1965			70% CPU in host kernel, 34% spin_lock in guests		
> 3.10-default-ple_off			  226			2% CPU in host kernel, 94% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-pvticket-ple_on			 1942			70% CPU in host kernel, 35% spin_lock in guests
> 3.10-pvticket-ple_off			 8003			11% CPU in host kernel, 70% spin_lock in guests
> [quite bad all around, but pv-tickets with PLE off the best so far.
>   Still quite a bit off from ideal throughput]

This is again a remarkable improvement (307%).
This motivates me to add a patch to disable ple when pvspinlock is on.
probably we can add a hypercall that disables ple in kvm init patch.
but only problem I see is what if the guests are mixed.

  (i.e one guest has pvspinlock support but other does not. Host
supports pv)

/me thinks

>
> In summary, I would state that the pv-ticket is an overall win, but the
> current PLE handler tends to "get in the way" on these larger guests.
>
> -Andrew
>

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-26  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-01 19:21 [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` [PATCH RFC V9 1/19] x86/spinlock: Replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 20:32   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-02  6:54     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 2/19] x86/ticketlock: Don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:28   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 3/19] x86/ticketlock: Collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:28   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:22 ` [PATCH RFC V9 4/19] xen: Defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 5/19] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:03   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:21     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 6/19] xen/pvticketlocks: Add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:23 ` [PATCH RFC V9 7/19] x86/pvticketlock: Use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 8/19] x86/pvticketlock: When paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:53   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 9/19] Split out rate limiting from jump_label.h Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:56   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:15     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 10/19] x86/ticketlock: Add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:24 ` [PATCH RFC V9 11/19] xen/pvticketlock: Allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 12/19] xen: Enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 15:57   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:16     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-04 14:44       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 15:00         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 13/19] kvm hypervisor : Add a hypercall to KVM hypervisor to support pv-ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 14/19] kvm : Fold pv_unhalt flag into GET_MP_STATE ioctl to aid migration Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 15/19] kvm guest : Add configuration support to enable debug information for KVM Guests Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:25 ` [PATCH RFC V9 16/19] kvm : Paravirtual ticketlocks support for linux guests running on KVM hypervisor Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:00   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:19     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 17/19] kvm hypervisor : Simplify kvm_for_each_vcpu with kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 18/19] Documentation/kvm : Add documentation on Hypercalls and features used for PV spinlock Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:04   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:22     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:26 ` [PATCH RFC V9 19/19] kvm hypervisor: Add directed yield in vcpu block path Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03 16:05   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04  7:28     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-02  8:07 ` [PATCH RFC V9 0/19] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 16:20   ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-03  1:40     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-03  6:21       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-07  6:15         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-07 13:29           ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-07 23:41           ` Jiannan Ouyang
2013-06-25 14:50 ` Andrew Theurer
2013-06-26  8:45   ` Raghavendra K T [this message]
2013-06-26 11:37     ` Andrew Jones
2013-06-26 12:52       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 13:40         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 14:39           ` Chegu Vinod
2013-06-26 15:37             ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 16:11           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-26 17:54             ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-09  9:11               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 10:33                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 10:40                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-10 10:47                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:28                       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:29                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:40                         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 15:03                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 15:16                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11  0:12                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-10 11:24                   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-10 11:41                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-10 11:50                       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11  9:13                   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11  9:48                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:10                       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:11                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 10:53                           ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-11 10:56                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-11 11:14                               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-06-26 14:13         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-26 15:56         ` Andrew Theurer
2013-07-01  9:30           ` Raghavendra K T
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-01  8:21 Raghavendra K T
2013-06-01 19:21 ` Raghavendra KT
2013-06-01 20:14 ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-01 20:28   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2013-06-01 20:46     ` Andi Kleen
2013-06-04 10:58   ` Raghavendra K T

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