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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
	Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] xen: use domid check in is_hardware_domain
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:10:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DD3315.4070800@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51DD47A902000078000E3C80@nat28.tlf.novell.com>

On 10/07/13 10:38, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 10.07.13 at 11:18, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 10/07/13 09:30, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 09.07.13 at 22:28, Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
>>>> Instead of checking is_privileged to determine if a domain should
>>>> control the hardware, check that the domain_id is equal to zero (which
>>>> is currently the only domain for which is_privileged is true).  This
>>>> allows other places where domain_id is checked for zero to be replaced
>>>> with is_hardware_domain.
>>>>
>>>> The distinction between is_hardware_domain, is_control_domain, and
>>>> domain 0 is based on the following disaggregation model:
>>>>
>>>> Domain 0 bootstraps the system.  It may remain to perform requested
>>>> builds of domains that need a minimal trust chain (i.e. vTPM domains).
>>>> Other than being built by the hypervisor, nothing is special about this
>>>> domain - although it may be useful to have is_control_domain() return
>>>> true depending on the toolstack it uses to build other domains.
>>>>
>>>> The hardware domain manages devices for PCI pass-through to driver
>>>> domains or can act as a driver domain itself, depending on the desired
>>>> degree of disaggregation.  It is also the domain managing devices that
>>>> do not support pass-through: PCI configuration space access, parsing the
>>>> hardware ACPI tables and system power or machine check events.  This is
>>>> the only domain where is_hardware_domain() is true.  The return of
>>>> is_control_domain() is false for this domain.
>>>>
>>>> The control domain manages other domains, controls guest launch and
>>>> shutdown, and manages resource constraints; is_control_domain() returns
>>>> true.  The functionality guarded by is_control_domain may in the future
>>>> be adapted to use explicit hypercalls, eliminating the special treatment
>>>> of this domain.  It may be reasonable to have multiple control domains
>>>> on a multi-tenant system.
>>>>
>>>> Guest domains and other service or driver domains are all treated
>>>> identically by the hypervisor; the security policy may further constrain
>>>> administrative actions on or communication between these domains.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
>>>> Acked-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>> This isn't correct: I gave my Reviewed-by for the full series; the
>>> Acked-by was given only for the two patches touching only code
>>> I'm maintainer for.
>>>
>>> The distinction we're trying to establish is that an ack implies that
>>> a maintainer is okay with a certain patch (i.e. a non-maintainer
>>> would generally not send ack-s at all), whereas a review means
>>> what it says - the patch was reviewed.
>> The definition you're using for Reviewed-by: is wrong.
>>
>>   From Linux's SubmittingPatches:
>> [...]
> So what was wrong with my description of Reviewed-by?

I think the interpretation of "Ack" is just, "I'm OK with this" / "I 
don't object".  Reviewed-by includes not only, "I think this patch is 
sound", but "I think this patch should be accepted".  As such, it would 
subsume and imply an Ack.

You said, "Reviewed-by means what it says - the patch was reviewed", 
which I understood to mean only "I think this patch is sound", and not 
"I think this patch should be accepted".  Otherwise I don't understand 
the point you are trying to make.

>> So Reviewed-by is much stronger than Acked-by, and one could be forgiven
>> for thinking that it could be "collapsed down" that way.
> What I was trying to point out is my current understanding: No
> matter how Linux understands Acked-by, we aim at it to mean
> that a maintainer is fine with a given patch being committed by
> a committer.
>
> And then again, having offered my Reviewed-by to the whole
> series (and explicitly pointed out that an eventual Acked-by
> would apply only to a subset, in an attempt to make my
> understanding of the tag's meaning explicit),

Yes, and so since Reviewed-by implies everything that Acked-by implies, 
the Acked-by's are redundant.

> I also don't see
> the point in weakening the stronger, wider scope tag.

I'm not what you're talking about here -- which is the stronger scope 
tag, and how do you perceive it being weakened?

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-10 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-09 20:28 [PATCH v2] xen: use domid check in is_hardware_domain Daniel De Graaf
2013-07-10  8:30 ` Jan Beulich
2013-07-10  9:18   ` George Dunlap
2013-07-10  9:38     ` Jan Beulich
2013-07-10 10:10       ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-07-10 10:30         ` Jan Beulich
2013-07-10 18:33   ` Daniel De Graaf
2013-07-10 10:57 ` George Dunlap
2013-07-10 11:43   ` Jan Beulich
2013-07-10 13:00     ` George Dunlap
2013-07-10 13:56       ` Jan Beulich
2013-07-10 15:50         ` George Dunlap
2013-07-11  8:03           ` Jan Beulich
2013-07-10 18:33   ` Daniel De Graaf

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