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From: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
To: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xen.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 4/4] xen-block: introduce a new request type to unmap grants
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 17:12:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DECB4D.4020009@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51DEB795.3000602@citrix.com>

On 11/07/13 15:48, David Vrabel wrote:
> On 10/07/13 10:19, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>
>> >From 1ede72ba10a7ec13d57ba6d2af54e86a099d7125 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:22:19 +0200
>> Subject: [PATCH RFC] xen-blkfront: revoke foreign access for grants not
>>  mapped by the backend
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>>
>> There's no need to keep the foreign access in a grant if it is not
>> persistently mapped by the backend. This allows us to free grants that
>> are not mapped by the backend, thus preventing blkfront from hoarding
>> all grants.
>>
>> The main effect of this is that blkfront will only persistently map
>> the same grants as the backend, and it will always try to use grants
>> that are already mapped by the backend. Also the number of persistent
>> grants in blkfront is the same as in blkback (and is controlled by the
>> value in blkback).
> 
> Does this place in implicit requirement on the behaviour of the backend.
>  i.e., the backend must persistently map the first N grants and always
> unmap the remainder?  If so, this should be clearly documented.

No, the backend can persistently map whatever grants it wants, and in
fact we have a LRU in the backend that keeps unmapping a certain amount
of grants that have not been used over a period of time.

> 
> It also seems odd to have the backend decide how much frontend resource
> can be consumed at anyone time.  It's not clear how the backend is
> supposed to know how many persistent grants it should hang on to.

blkfront has to at least persistently map the same grants as the
backend. blkfront could persistently map all grants, but then we will
have grant shortage, and I doubt there's much performance gain from
persistently mapping grants in blkfront but not blkback (since the
biggest performance penalty comes from the unmapping done in blkback and
TLB flush involved).

Using this mechanism we also make sure that blkfront will always try to
use grants that blkback has persistently mapped, and then fall back to
non-persistent grants if we exhaust all persistent mappings.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-11 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1373288607-1876-1-git-send-email-roger.pau@citrix.com>
2013-07-08 13:03 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] xen-gnt: prevent adding duplicate gnt callbacks Roger Pau Monne
2013-07-11 13:17   ` David Vrabel
     [not found]   ` <51DEB070.3060106@citrix.com>
2013-07-11 16:23     ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-07-08 13:03 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] xen-blkfront: improve aproximation of required grants per request Roger Pau Monne
2013-07-08 13:03 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] xen-blkfront: prevent hoarding all grants Roger Pau Monne
2013-07-08 13:03 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] xen-block: introduce a new request type to unmap grants Roger Pau Monne
     [not found] ` <1373288607-1876-5-git-send-email-roger.pau@citrix.com>
2013-07-08 19:41   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found]   ` <20130708194152.GJ4927@phenom.dumpdata.com>
2013-07-09 13:22     ` Wei Liu
2013-07-09 16:37     ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found]     ` <51DC3C66.2030606@citrix.com>
2013-07-09 18:32       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found]       ` <20130709183207.GA9924@phenom.dumpdata.com>
2013-07-09 18:38         ` Wei Liu
2013-07-10  9:19     ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found]     ` <51DD271B.3010408@citrix.com>
2013-07-10 13:54       ` Egger, Christoph
     [not found]       ` <51DD6792.8040502@amazon.de>
2013-07-10 14:46         ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-07-10 14:52       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-11 13:48       ` David Vrabel
     [not found]       ` <51DEB795.3000602@citrix.com>
2013-07-11 15:12         ` Roger Pau Monné [this message]
2013-07-11 15:26           ` David Vrabel
     [not found]           ` <51DECEC3.7090306@citrix.com>
2013-07-11 15:48             ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found]             ` <51DED3B6.9090601@citrix.com>
2013-07-12 10:12               ` David Vrabel
     [not found] ` <1373288607-1876-3-git-send-email-roger.pau@citrix.com>
2013-07-11 13:20   ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] xen-blkfront: improve aproximation of required grants per request David Vrabel
     [not found]   ` <51DEB102.7060802@citrix.com>
2013-07-11 14:47     ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found] ` <1373288607-1876-4-git-send-email-roger.pau@citrix.com>
2013-07-11 13:32   ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] xen-blkfront: prevent hoarding all grants David Vrabel
     [not found]   ` <51DEB3D5.2050101@citrix.com>
2013-07-11 14:57     ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-07-11 13:35 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] xen-block: prevent blkfront for hoarding grants David Vrabel
2013-07-31  9:50 ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found] ` <51F8DDEB.603@citrix.com>
2013-07-31 11:27   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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