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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Brandon Philips <brandon@ifup.org>
Subject: Re: is kexec on Xen domU possible?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:24:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51ED78EE.9020903@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wqoise9d.fsf@xmission.com>

On 07/22/2013 10:20 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, in any virtualized environment the hypervisor can do a better job
>>> for things like kdump, simply because it can provide two things that are
>>> otherwise hard to do:
>>>
>>> 1. a known-good system state;
>>> 2. a known-clean kdump image.
>>>
>>> As such, I do encourage the virtualization people to (also) develop
>>> hypervisor-*aware* solutions for these kinds of things.
>>
>> In general I agree but if you could not change hypervisor
>> and/or dom0 (e.g. you are using cloud providers which are
>> stick to old versions of Xen) then you have no choice.
> 
> Which tends to be where kexec on panic comes in most cases.  Getting
> platform vendors to do something sane tends to be a multi-year political
> effort of dubious worth while just solving the problem locally actually
> gets the problem solved for those who care.
> 

It should not be a "one or the other" issue.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-22 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-19  2:06 is kexec on Xen domU possible? Greg KH
2013-07-19 13:18 ` Daniel Kiper
2013-07-19 13:54   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-19 19:04     ` Olaf Hering
2013-07-19 14:58   ` Brandon Philips
2013-07-19 18:19     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-07-19 15:12   ` Greg KH
2013-07-19 18:32     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-07-19 19:14       ` Greg KH
2013-07-19 20:58         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-22 17:03           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-07-22 17:20             ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-07-22 18:24               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-07-22 18:33                 ` Greg KH
2013-07-22 18:36                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-07-24  0:22                   ` [Xen-devel] " Matt Wilson
2013-07-24  0:40                     ` Greg KH
2013-07-24  7:49                       ` Eric W. Biederman

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