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From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V11 15/18] kvm : Paravirtual ticketlocks support for linux guests running on KVM hypervisor
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:08:10 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F0F202.5090001@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130725091509.GA22735@redhat.com>

On 07/25/2013 02:45 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 02:47:37PM +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>> On 07/24/2013 06:06 PM, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>> On 07/24/2013 05:36 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 05:30:20PM +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>>>> On 07/24/2013 04:09 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 03:15:50PM +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>>>>>> On 07/23/2013 08:37 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:50:16AM +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>>>>>>>> +static void kvm_lock_spinning(struct arch_spinlock *lock,
>>>>>>>>> __ticket_t want)
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>>>>> +     * halt until it's our turn and kicked. Note that we do safe
>>>>>>>>> halt
>>>>>>>>> +     * for irq enabled case to avoid hang when lock info is
>>>>>>>>> overwritten
>>>>>>>>> +     * in irq spinlock slowpath and no spurious interrupt occur
>>>>>>>>> to save us.
>>>>>>>>> +     */
>>>>>>>>> +    if (arch_irqs_disabled_flags(flags))
>>>>>>>>> +        halt();
>>>>>>>>> +    else
>>>>>>>>> +        safe_halt();
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +out:
>>>>>>>> So here now interrupts can be either disabled or enabled. Previous
>>>>>>>> version disabled interrupts here, so are we sure it is safe to
>>>>>>>> have them
>>>>>>>> enabled at this point? I do not see any problem yet, will keep
>>>>>>>> thinking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we enable interrupt here, then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +    cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, &waiting_cpus);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and if we start serving lock for an interrupt that came here,
>>>>>>> cpumask clear and w->lock=null may not happen atomically.
>>>>>>> if irq spinlock does not take slow path we would have non null value
>>>>>>> for lock, but with no information in waitingcpu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am still thinking what would be problem with that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly, for kicker waiting_cpus and w->lock updates are
>>>>>> non atomic anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +    w->lock = NULL;
>>>>>>>>> +    local_irq_restore(flags);
>>>>>>>>> +    spin_time_accum_blocked(start);
>>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>>> +PV_CALLEE_SAVE_REGS_THUNK(kvm_lock_spinning);
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +/* Kick vcpu waiting on @lock->head to reach value @ticket */
>>>>>>>>> +static void kvm_unlock_kick(struct arch_spinlock *lock,
>>>>>>>>> __ticket_t ticket)
>>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>>> +    int cpu;
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +    add_stats(RELEASED_SLOW, 1);
>>>>>>>>> +    for_each_cpu(cpu, &waiting_cpus) {
>>>>>>>>> +        const struct kvm_lock_waiting *w =
>>>>>>>>> &per_cpu(lock_waiting, cpu);
>>>>>>>>> +        if (ACCESS_ONCE(w->lock) == lock &&
>>>>>>>>> +            ACCESS_ONCE(w->want) == ticket) {
>>>>>>>>> +            add_stats(RELEASED_SLOW_KICKED, 1);
>>>>>>>>> +            kvm_kick_cpu(cpu);
>>>>>>>> What about using NMI to wake sleepers? I think it was discussed, but
>>>>>>>> forgot why it was dismissed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I have missed that discussion. 'll go back and check. so
>>>>>>> what is the idea here? we can easily wake up the halted vcpus that
>>>>>>> have interrupt disabled?
>>>>>> We can of course. IIRC the objection was that NMI handling path is very
>>>>>> fragile and handling NMI on each wakeup will be more expensive then
>>>>>> waking up a guest without injecting an event, but it is still
>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>> to see the numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Haam, now I remember, We had tried request based mechanism. (new
>>>>> request like REQ_UNHALT) and process that. It had worked, but had some
>>>>> complex hacks in vcpu_enter_guest to avoid guest hang in case of
>>>>> request cleared.  So had left it there..
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/4/30/67
>>>>>
>>>>> But I do not remember performance impact though.
>>>> No, this is something different. Wakeup with NMI does not need KVM
>>>> changes at
>>>> all. Instead of kvm_kick_cpu(cpu) in kvm_unlock_kick you send NMI IPI.
>>>>
>>>
>>> True. It was not NMI.
>>> just to confirm, are you talking about something like this to be tried ?
>>>
>>> apic->send_IPI_mask(cpumask_of(cpu), APIC_DM_NMI);
>>
>> When I started benchmark, I started seeing
>> "Dazed and confused, but trying to continue" from unknown nmi error
>> handling.
>> Did I miss anything (because we did not register any NMI handler)? or
>> is it that spurious NMIs are trouble because we could get spurious NMIs
>> if next waiter already acquired the lock.
> There is a default NMI handler that tries to detect the reason why NMI
> happened (which is no so easy on x86) and prints this message if it
> fails. You need to add logic to detect spinlock slow path there. Check
> bit in waiting_cpus for instance.

aha.. Okay. will check that.

>
>>
>> (note: I tried sending APIC_DM_REMRD IPI directly, which worked fine
>> but hypercall way of handling still performed well from the results I
>> saw).
> You mean better? This is strange. Have you ran guest with x2apic?
>

Had the same doubt. So ran the full benchmark for dbench.
So here is what I saw now. 1x was neck to neck (0.9% for hypercall vs 
0.7% for IPI which should boil to no difference considering the noise
factors) but otherwise, by sending IPI I see few percentage gain in 
overcommit cases.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-25  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-22  6:16 [PATCH RFC V11 0/18] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:16 ` [PATCH RFC V11 1/18] x86/spinlock: Replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:17 ` [PATCH RFC V11 2/18] x86/ticketlock: Don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:17 ` [PATCH RFC V11 3/18] x86/ticketlock: Collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:17 ` [PATCH RFC V11 4/18] xen: Defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:17 ` [PATCH RFC V11 5/18] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:17 ` [PATCH RFC V11 6/18] xen/pvticketlocks: Add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:18 ` [PATCH RFC V11 7/18] x86/pvticketlock: Use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:18 ` [PATCH RFC V11 8/18] x86/pvticketlock: When paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:18 ` [PATCH RFC V11 9/18] jump_label: Split out rate limiting from jump_label.h Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:18 ` [PATCH RFC V11 10/18] x86/ticketlock: Add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:19 ` [PATCH RFC V11 11/18] xen/pvticketlock: Allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:19 ` [PATCH RFC V11 12/18] kvm hypervisor : Add a hypercall to KVM hypervisor to support pv-ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:19 ` [PATCH RFC V11 13/18] kvm : Fold pv_unhalt flag into GET_MP_STATE ioctl to aid migration Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:20 ` [PATCH RFC V11 14/18] kvm guest : Add configuration support to enable debug information for KVM Guests Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:20 ` [PATCH RFC V11 15/18] kvm : Paravirtual ticketlocks support for linux guests running on KVM hypervisor Raghavendra K T
2013-07-23 15:07   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24  9:24     ` [PATCH RESEND " Raghavendra K T
2013-07-24  9:45     ` [PATCH " Raghavendra K T
2013-07-24 10:39       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 12:00         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-24 12:06           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-24 12:36             ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-25  9:17               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-25  9:15                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25  9:38                   ` Raghavendra K T [this message]
2013-07-30 16:43                     ` Raghavendra K T
2013-07-31  6:24                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-01  7:38                         ` Raghavendra K T
2013-08-01  7:45                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-01  9:04                             ` Raghavendra K T
2013-08-02  3:22                               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-08-02  9:23                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-02  9:44                                   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-08-02  9:25                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-02  9:54                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-02 10:57                               ` Raghavendra K T
2013-08-05  9:46                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-05 10:42                                 ` Raghavendra K T
     [not found]                                 ` <20130805095901.GL2258@redhat.com>
2013-08-05 13:52                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-08-05 14:05                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-05 14:39                                       ` Raghavendra K T
2013-08-05 14:45                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-05 15:37                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-22  6:20 ` [PATCH RFC V11 16/18] kvm hypervisor : Simplify kvm_for_each_vcpu with kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:20 ` [PATCH RFC V11 17/18] Documentation/kvm : Add documentation on Hypercalls and features used for PV spinlock Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22  6:20 ` [PATCH RFC V11 18/18] kvm hypervisor: Add directed yield in vcpu block path Raghavendra K T
2013-07-22 19:36 ` [PATCH RFC V11 0/18] Paravirtualized ticket spinlocks Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-23  2:50   ` Raghavendra K T
2013-08-05 22:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-06  2:50   ` Raghavendra K T

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