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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Gordan Bobic <gordan@bobich.net>
Cc: Andrew Bobulsky <rulerof@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: Bug: Limitation of <=2GB RAM in domU persists with 4.3.0
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:15:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51FA2714.9000405@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51F966E5.9080006@bobich.net>

On 31/07/13 20:35, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> On 07/31/2013 06:53 PM, George Dunlap wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Gordan Bobic <gordan@bobich.net> wrote:
>>>> Now that is intereting - if this makes the memory holes the same 
>>>> between
>>>> the guest and the host, does it also implicitly vBAR=pBAR?
>>>
>>>
>>> Another thing that occurred to me might be useful to check - it is
>>> pretty easy to modify the BAR size on Nvidia cards. The defaults are
>>> 64MB and 128MB for the two BARs. They can be made much, much larger,
>>> and there is often advantage to enlarging them to at least be equal to
>>> VRAM size. Soooooo... If I boost the BAR from 128MB to 2GB, being a
>>> 64-bit BAR, it might make the BIOS do the sane thing and map it above
>>> 4GB. With the other BAR also suitably enlarged and it being done on
>>> the second GPU as well, there is no obvious option but to map them
>>> above 4GB (unless the BIOS is broken, which it may well be, in
>>> which case all bets are off).
>>>
>>> Which may just alleviate the memory issue if not completely fix
>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> Will try this and see what happens.
>>
>> I believe XenServer has a patch that allows the toolstack (in this
>> case xapi) to set the default size of the MMIO hole.  Andrew, did that
>> ever make it upstream?
>>
>> Unfortunately, it is unlikely to work with upstream qemu until we fix
>> the memory relocation issue...
>
> Interesting you should mention something like this. I've been 
> pondering whether it might be easier (even if it is a bodge) to simply 
> always set the domU E820 map to have 0x80000000 - 0xFFFFFFFF 
> (2GB->4GB) reserved. I have not yet seen a motherboard that maps 
> 32-bit BARs below 2GB.

I'm pretty sure we've seen a memory hole larger than 2GiB, in a box 
loaded up with a boatload of GPUs.

The main problem with doing this unconditionally is that the relocated 
memory isn't available to non-PAE 32-bit guests.  I think we should have 
a work-around in place for 4.4 that will avoid a collision between the 
host MMIO and guest memory addresses; but it will need to be off by 
default, at least for guests that don't have a passed-through device.

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-01  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-23 22:34 Bug: Limitation of <=2GB RAM in domU persists with 4.3.0 Gordan Bobic
2013-07-24 14:08 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-24 14:17   ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-24 16:06     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-24 16:14       ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-24 16:31         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-24 17:26           ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-24 22:15           ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-25 19:18             ` George Dunlap
2013-07-25 21:48               ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-25 22:23                 ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-26  0:21                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-07-26  1:15                     ` Andrew Bobulsky
2013-07-26  9:28                       ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-26 13:11                         ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-31 17:53                           ` George Dunlap
2013-07-31 17:56                             ` Andrew Cooper
2013-07-31 19:36                               ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-31 19:35                             ` Gordan Bobic
2013-08-01  9:15                               ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-08-01 13:10                                 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-08-02 14:43                                   ` George Dunlap
2013-07-28 10:26                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-28 21:24                         ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-28 23:17                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-07-28 23:30                             ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-29  9:53                             ` Ian Campbell
2013-07-26  9:23                     ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-29 11:14                       ` Ian Campbell
2013-07-29 18:04                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-03 13:53                         ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-03 14:59                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-03 19:47                             ` HVM support for e820_host (Was: Bug: Limitation of <=2GB RAM in domU persists with 4.3.0) Gordan Bobic
2013-09-03 20:35                               ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-03 20:49                                 ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-03 21:10                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-03 21:24                                     ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-03 21:30                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-04  0:18                                         ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-04 14:08                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-04 14:23                                             ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-04 18:00                                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-03 21:08                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-04  9:21                                   ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-04 11:01                                   ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-04 13:11                                     ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-04 20:18                                       ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05  2:04                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-05  9:41                                         ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 10:00                                           ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 12:36                                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-05 10:26                                         ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 12:38                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-05 21:13                                         ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 21:29                                           ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 21:46                                             ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 22:23                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-05 22:42                                             ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-06 13:09                                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-06 14:09                                                 ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 22:45                                             ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 23:01                                               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-06 12:23                                                 ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-06 13:20                                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-06 14:45                                                     ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-05 22:33                                           ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-06 13:04                                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-06 13:34                                               ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-06 14:32                                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-06 16:30                                                   ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-06 19:54                                                     ` Gordan Bobic
2013-09-10 13:35                                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-10 15:04                                                         ` Gordan Bobic
2013-07-25 21:26           ` Bug: Limitation of <=2GB RAM in domU persists with 4.3.0 Gordan Bobic

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