From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Steven Noonan <snoonan@amazon.com>,
Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Matt Wilson <msw@linux.com>,
Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
Zhigang Wang <zhigang.x.wang@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: xend deprecation
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:12:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52284B13.9050704@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130904163318.GB6188@phenom.dumpdata.com>
On 04/09/13 17:33, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 04:34:30PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 16:18 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
>>> <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:29:07AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2013-09-03 at 23:06 -0700, Matt Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:03:46AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 13:32 -0700, Matt Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> Live migration between a system running xend to a system that doesn't
>>>>>>>> support xend would be a nice-to-have. That probably means some support
>>>>>>>> for SXP parsing either in libxl or in some compatibility tool.
>>>>>>> This already works by using xl on the source side, e.g. a guest started
>>>>>>> with xend on 4.1 can be migrated with 4.1's xl to 4.2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-08/msg02191.html
>>>>>> xl doesn't run everywhere that we need it to.
>>>>> Details please, or we aren't going to be able to even think about how to
>>>>> solve this for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW You can also do a xend migration to e.g. 4.2 (using the xend whichis
>>>>> in 4.2) and the use 4.2's xl to do a localhost migrate or a second
>>>>> remote migrate to another 4.2 system.
>>>>>
>>>>> xend's deprecation has been on the cards, and widely known, for several
>>>>> releases now. It is time to quit stalling and start moving. I intend to
>>>>> post a patch deleting it as soon as 4.4 is out the door.
>>>> And I think I might have to lobby hard against removing it.
>> If by lobby you mean "step up to maintain" then please do.
> I can surely do that, but I would prefer to have the issues fixed.
You mean you prefer to have the xl issues fixed? I think we all do; so
instead of lobbying hard to remove xend, you can lobby hard to get the
outstanding issues fixed. :-)
-George
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-05 9:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-30 23:40 [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state Matt Wilson
2013-09-02 9:53 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-02 20:32 ` xend deprecation [Was: Re: [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state] Matt Wilson
2013-09-03 8:03 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 6:06 ` xend deprecation Matt Wilson
2013-09-04 7:29 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 14:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-04 15:18 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-04 15:34 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 15:43 ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-12 10:02 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-12 10:15 ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-12 11:10 ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-04 15:49 ` Tim Deegan
2013-09-04 16:17 ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-04 16:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 16:33 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-05 9:12 ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-09-06 13:36 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-06 13:49 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-06 14:01 ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-06 14:15 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-05 10:18 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-09-05 10:27 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-05 10:46 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-04 16:29 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-12 12:52 ` [PATCH] xl: print runtime info in "xl list -l" Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 17:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-25 17:56 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 18:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-25 17:59 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 18:27 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 15:51 ` Wei Liu
2013-09-12 14:02 ` xend deprecation Ian Campbell
2013-10-21 14:09 ` Wei Liu
2013-10-21 15:13 ` Zhigang Wang
2013-10-21 15:33 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-21 15:35 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 12:57 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-09-12 9:50 ` Support for xm create -F (sxp configuration files) Ian Campbell
2013-09-12 10:00 ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-16 16:49 ` Matt Wilson
2013-11-05 14:39 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-05 14:45 ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-03 16:33 ` [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 6:12 ` Matt Wilson
2013-09-04 6:47 ` Noonan, Steven
2013-09-04 7:30 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 10:14 ` Ian Jackson
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