From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: George Dunlap Subject: Re: xend deprecation Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:12:51 +0100 Message-ID: <52284B13.9050704@eu.citrix.com> References: <1377906042-12816-1-git-send-email-msw@linux.com> <20130902203256.GA23391@u109add4315675089e695.ant.amazon.com> <1378195426.7651.57.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <20130904060642.GB25227@u109add4315675089e695.ant.amazon.com> <1378279747.6935.22.camel@dagon.hellion.org.uk> <20130904140414.GA3188@phenom.dumpdata.com> <1378308870.17510.151.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <20130904163318.GB6188@phenom.dumpdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mail6.bemta4.messagelabs.com ([85.158.143.247]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VHVco-0001FJ-6Y for xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 09:13:14 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20130904163318.GB6188@phenom.dumpdata.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk Cc: Steven Noonan , Ian Campbell , Stefano Stabellini , Matt Wilson , Ian Jackson , Matt Wilson , xen-devel , Zhigang Wang List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On 04/09/13 17:33, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 04:34:30PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >> On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 16:18 +0100, George Dunlap wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk >>> wrote: >>>> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:29:07AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 2013-09-03 at 23:06 -0700, Matt Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:03:46AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 13:32 -0700, Matt Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> Live migration between a system running xend to a system that doesn't >>>>>>>> support xend would be a nice-to-have. That probably means some support >>>>>>>> for SXP parsing either in libxl or in some compatibility tool. >>>>>>> This already works by using xl on the source side, e.g. a guest started >>>>>>> with xend on 4.1 can be migrated with 4.1's xl to 4.2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-08/msg02191.html >>>>>> xl doesn't run everywhere that we need it to. >>>>> Details please, or we aren't going to be able to even think about how to >>>>> solve this for you. >>>>> >>>>> BTW You can also do a xend migration to e.g. 4.2 (using the xend whichis >>>>> in 4.2) and the use 4.2's xl to do a localhost migrate or a second >>>>> remote migrate to another 4.2 system. >>>>> >>>>> xend's deprecation has been on the cards, and widely known, for several >>>>> releases now. It is time to quit stalling and start moving. I intend to >>>>> post a patch deleting it as soon as 4.4 is out the door. >>>> And I think I might have to lobby hard against removing it. >> If by lobby you mean "step up to maintain" then please do. > I can surely do that, but I would prefer to have the issues fixed. You mean you prefer to have the xl issues fixed? I think we all do; so instead of lobbying hard to remove xend, you can lobby hard to get the outstanding issues fixed. :-) -George