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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Cc: suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com, jacob.shin@amd.com,
	eddie.dong@intel.com, dietmar.hahn@ts.fujitsu.com,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	jun.nakajima@intel.com,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/13] x86/PMU: Xen PMU PV support
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 18:01:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5230A1D3.8070805@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <522F3F0F.9060207@oracle.com>

On 10/09/13 16:47, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 09/10/2013 11:34 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 10.09.13 at 17:20, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>> This version has following limitations:
>>> * For accurate profiling of dom0/Xen dom0 VCPUs should be pinned.
>>> * Hypervisor code is only profiled on processors that have running 
>>> dom0 VCPUs
>>> on them.
>> With that I assume this is an RFC rather than full-fledged submission?
>
> I was thinking that this would be something like stage 1 
> implementation (and
> probably should have mentioned this in the cover letter).
>
> For this stage I wanted to confine all changes on Linux side to xen 
> subtrees.
> Properly addressing the above limitation would likely require changes 
> in non-xen
> sources (change in perf file format, remote MSR access etc.).

I think having the vpmu stuff for PV guests is a great idea, and from a 
quick skim through I don't have any problems with the general approach.  
(Obviously some more detailed review will be needed.)

However, I'm not a fan of this method of collecting perf stuff for Xen 
and other VMs together in the cpu buffers for dom0.  I think it's ugly, 
fragile, and non-scalable, and I would prefer to see if we could 
implement the same feature (allowing perf to analyze Xen and other 
vcpus) some other way.  And I would rather not use it as a "stage 1", 
for fear that it would become entrenched.

I think at the hackathon we discussed the idea of having "fake" cpus -- 
each of which would correspond to either a pcpu with Xen, or a vcpu of 
another domain.  How problematic is that approach?  For phase 1 can we 
just do vpmu for PV guests (and add hooks to allow domains to profile 
themselves), and look into how to profile Xen and other VMs as a stage 2?

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-11 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-10 15:20 [PATCH v1 00/13] x86/PMU: Xen PMU PV support Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v1 01/13] Export hypervisor symbols Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-11  7:51   ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-11 13:55     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-11 14:12       ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-11 14:57         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-11 16:01           ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-10 15:20 ` [PATCH v1 02/13] Set VCPU's is_running flag closer to when the VCPU is dispatched Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-11  7:58   ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 03/13] x86/PMU: Stop AMD counters when called from vpmu_save_force() Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 04/13] x86/VPMU: Minor VPMU cleanup Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 05/13] intel/VPMU: Clean up Intel VPMU code Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 06/13] x86/PMU: Add public xenpmu.h Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-11  8:13   ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-11 14:03     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-11 14:16       ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-11  8:37   ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 07/13] x86/PMU: Make vpmu not HVM-specific Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 08/13] x86/PMU: Interface for setting PMU mode and flags Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 09/13] x86/PMU: Initialize PMU for PV guests Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 10/13] x86/PMU: Add support for PMU registes handling on " Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 11/13] x86/PMU: Handle PMU interrupts for " Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 12/13] x86/PMU: Save VPMU state for PV guests during context switch Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 13/13] x86/PMU: Move vpmu files up from hvm directory Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-10 15:34 ` [PATCH v1 00/13] x86/PMU: Xen PMU PV support Jan Beulich
2013-09-10 15:47   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-11 17:01     ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-09-11 18:22       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2013-09-12  9:39         ` George Dunlap
2013-09-12 14:58           ` Boris Ostrovsky

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