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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Simon Martin <smartin@milliways.cl>, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: Porting an OS to Xen
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 00:07:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <525B27AD.9050103@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <em39daccfc-3dae-4f96-a4b7-554932880fe9@smartin-alien>


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On 13/10/2013 21:28, Simon Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> I originally posted this on the xenproject Q&A forum, and it was
> suggested that I repost it here. If it would be better posted
> elsewhere then please let me know. Please skip the next paragraph if
> you're not interested in the why.

I would say that you have found the correct place to be asking questions
like this.

>  
> Over the last 2 decades I have been developing a real-time OS with one
> of my customers (I was an employee when we started, a consultant for
> the last 15 years). This runs on our own hardware (originally TI
> TMS320C3x, then MIPS64, then ARM9). The system started off 80% C 20%
> Assembly, and is now about 99% C and 1% Assembly (just the
> bootstrapping). We now have a requirement to run this OS in parallel
> with Windows. I have looked at various real-time hypervisors and
> Windows extensions, however I think we can get more mileage out of Xen
> due to the open source nature of the project.
>  
> I bought the book "The Definitive Guide to the Xen Hypervisor" as it
> was recommended by the xenproject Q&A forum and it is very
> interesting, however the examples are 32 bit and I am working 64 bit,
> and let's say that my x86 assembler is a bit rusty to say the least!
>  
> My questions (I am running Xen 4.1.4 on Debian Wheezy):
>  
> 1.- I have looked at MirageOS but I think it is overkill for what I
> want to do. I just want a basic C wrapper to allow Xen to load my
> software, I would prefer not to have to learn OCaml, but if this is
> what it takes, then I'll have to do it.
>  
> 2.- Is there any sample simple x86_64 code that I can work from to get
> out of the starting blocks?

Yes.  I am not familiar with what is distributed with Wheezy; you are
probably better checking out from the git tree (
http://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=summary ).  In extras/MiniOS,
you will find MiniOS which is a minimal example of getting code working
as a paravirtualised guest.  It should certainly be a good starting
point and reference.

>  
> 3.- xl complains about my image not being a bzImage. Is there anyway I
> can avoid this error/warning? If not how do I convert my image to a
> bzImage? I'd rather not have to port in half the Linux bootstrap.

What format are you trying to boot?  It should be happy booting any
format that a Linux kernel might be, which would typically be an Elf
multiboot image with some form of compression.

>  
> 4.- Despite xl complaining about the kernel not being in bzImage
> format it still seems to run (I get the same error message from the
> MirageOS but the image loads and runs OK). However it crashes and I
> have no way of seeing what's going on. Is there any way to debug my
> guest startup inside Xen?

There are several options depending on your preference.

on_crash="pause" in your domain configuration file will leave the VM
state to be inspected.  "coredump-destroy" and "coredump-restart" are
also alternatives.

xl dump-core <domid> <file> should create an Elf CORE file representing
the domain.

The gdbsx set of tools (tools/debugger/gdbsx) allow you to attach gdb to
a running Xen domain.

Getting a PV console working (see the early code from MiniOS) would
allow you to print inforation.

Failing a PV console, if you build yourself a debug version of Xen, you
can use the console_io hypercall from your guest and get debugging
messages into the Xen console.

Hopefully that should be enough to get started with debugging.

One final thing which come to mind given your request which you might or
might not be aware of:  Xen has "arinc653", a maintained realtime
scheduler which will likely be more appropriate to your requirements
than the default "credit" scheduler.

Hope this is somewhat helpful

~Andrew

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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-13 20:28 Porting an OS to Xen Simon Martin
2013-10-13 23:07 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2013-10-14 16:22   ` Simon Martin
2013-10-14 16:31     ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-14 16:37     ` Andrew Cooper

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