From: Zhigang Wang <zhigang.x.wang@oracle.com>
To: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
Cc: Steven Noonan <snoonan@amazon.com>,
Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
Matt Wilson <msw@linux.com>,
Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: xend deprecation
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:13:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <526544A4.7080703@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131021140953.GB1410@zion.uk.xensource.com>
On 10/21/2013 10:09 AM, Wei Liu wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 10:04:14AM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> [...]
>> There are issues that are stopping us from using it:
>>
>
> I look at these xl items from time to time and see if I can fix them but
> they come out a little bit more complex than I expect.
>
> Xl will store DomU configs in its private storage location and retrievs
> them as it see fit. This behavior is causing a series of issues.
>
> For 'xl list -l', the detail info of a domain is retrieved from the
> stored config file.
>
>> - No status in xl list -l when only dom0 is present.
>
> This would not work because there is no config file for Dom0.
>
>> - 'xl list -l' says 'Domain name must be specified' even though the '-l'
>> is for 'Output all VM details'
>
> Haven't traced this one down, but I presume this is caused by the same
> thing.
>
>> - No console in xl list -l, so can't get tty console port.
>
> This would not work because apparently you cannot specify a tty in
> DomU's config file -- that's allcoated by xenconsoled.
>
> Along with the above issues, xl save/restored will only use the stored
> config file which makes it impossible to persist any runtime info across
> save/restore -- one significant defect is that VM's MAC address changes
> every time unless it is specified in the original config file.
>
> These issues are all connected in a way -- runtime info is not retrieved
> / updated / preserved. What I have in mind is that we might need to
> introduce a mechanism to pull info from Xenstore, serialize /
> deserialize config info / update stored config file when necessary.
>
> Comments?
Long time ago, when I work on it, I have the same feeling (I haven't
confirm the latest code yet).
xend is a daemon: it handles all VM state change. With xl, a private
storage location for each VM is the corresponding solution for now.
My suggestion with my limited knowledge is: remove this private storage
location and get all the info from xenstore/hypercall.
Thanks,
Zhigang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-21 15:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-30 23:40 [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state Matt Wilson
2013-09-02 9:53 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-02 20:32 ` xend deprecation [Was: Re: [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state] Matt Wilson
2013-09-03 8:03 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 6:06 ` xend deprecation Matt Wilson
2013-09-04 7:29 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 14:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-04 15:18 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-04 15:34 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 15:43 ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-12 10:02 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-12 10:15 ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-12 11:10 ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-04 15:49 ` Tim Deegan
2013-09-04 16:17 ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-04 16:24 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 16:33 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-05 9:12 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-06 13:36 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-06 13:49 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-06 14:01 ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-06 14:15 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-05 10:18 ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-09-05 10:27 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-05 10:46 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-04 16:29 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-12 12:52 ` [PATCH] xl: print runtime info in "xl list -l" Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 17:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-25 17:56 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 18:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-25 17:59 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 18:27 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 15:51 ` Wei Liu
2013-09-12 14:02 ` xend deprecation Ian Campbell
2013-10-21 14:09 ` Wei Liu
2013-10-21 15:13 ` Zhigang Wang [this message]
2013-10-21 15:33 ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-21 15:35 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 12:57 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-09-12 9:50 ` Support for xm create -F (sxp configuration files) Ian Campbell
2013-09-12 10:00 ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-16 16:49 ` Matt Wilson
2013-11-05 14:39 ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-05 14:45 ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-03 16:33 ` [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 6:12 ` Matt Wilson
2013-09-04 6:47 ` Noonan, Steven
2013-09-04 7:30 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 10:14 ` Ian Jackson
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