From: Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] libxl: fork: SIGCHLD flexibility
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 22:39:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52E5F110.1020907@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1390567954.2124.85.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 12:41 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
>
>
>> Thread A Thread B
>>
>> invoke some libxl operation
>> X do some libxl stuff
>> X register timeout (libxl)
>> XV record timeout info
>> X do some more libxl stuff
>> ...
>> X do some more libxl stuff
>> X deregister timeout (libxl internal)
>> X converted to request immediate timeout
>> XV record new timeout info
>> X release libvirt event loop lock
>> entering libvirt event loop
>> V observe timeout is immediate
>>
>
> Is there nothing in this interval which deregisters, pauses, quiesces or
> otherwise prevents the timer from going off again until after the
> callback (when the lock would be reacquired and whatever was done is
> undone)?
>
The libvirt libxl driver will disable the timeout in libvirt's event
loop before calling libxl_osevent_occurred_timeout. But AFAICT, and as
Ian J. describes, another thread running the event loop could invoke the
timeout before it is disabled. I think this could be handled in the
libxl driver as described in my response to his mail.
> (V is the libvirt event loop lock I presume?)
>
>
>> V need to do callback
>> call libxl driver
>>
>> entering libvirt event loop
>> V observe timeout is immediate
>>
>
> Given the behaviour I suggest above this would be prevented I think?
>
>
>> But if you think about it, if you have 10 threads all running the
>> event loop and you set a timeout to zero, doesn't that mean that every
>> thread's event loop should do the timeout callback as fast as it can ?
>> That could be a lot of wasted effort.
>>
>
> It doesn't seem all that likely triggering the same timeout multiple
> times in different threads simultaneously would be a deliberate design
> decision, so if the libvirt event core doesn't already prevent this
> somehow then it seems to me that this is just a bug in the event loop
> core.
>
If I understand the code correctly, it does seem possible to trigger the
same timeout multiple times.
> In that case should be addressed in libvirt, and in any case the libvirt
> core folks should be involved in the discussion, so they have the
> opportunity to tell us how best, if at all, we can use the provided
> facilities and/or whether these issues are deliberate of things which
> should be fixed etc.
>
Agreed. I'll mention the issue and this discussion on the libvirt IRC
channel tomorrow.
Regards,
Jim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-27 5:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-17 16:23 [PATCH 00/12] libxl: fork: SIGCHLD flexibility Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 01/12] libxl: fork: Break out checked_waitpid Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 02/12] libxl: fork: Break out childproc_reaped_ours Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 03/12] libxl: fork: Clarify docs for libxl_sigchld_owner Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 04/12] libxl: fork: Document libxl_sigchld_owner_libxl better Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:28 ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 05/12] libxl: fork: assert that chldmode is right Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 06/12] libxl: fork: Provide libxl_childproc_sigchld_occurred Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:24 ` [PATCH 07/12] libxl: fork: Provide ..._always_selective_reap Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 22:17 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-17 16:24 ` [PATCH 08/12] libxl: fork: Provide LIBXL_HAVE_SIGCHLD_SELECTIVE_REAP Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:24 ` [PATCH 09/12] libxl: fork: Rename sigchld handler functions Ian Jackson
2014-01-20 9:59 ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-17 16:24 ` [PATCH 10/12] libxl: fork: Break out sigchld_installhandler_core Ian Jackson
2014-01-20 9:59 ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-17 16:24 ` [PATCH 11/12] libxl: fork: Break out sigchld_sethandler_raw Ian Jackson
2014-01-20 9:58 ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-20 17:57 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:24 ` [PATCH 12/12] libxl: fork: Share SIGCHLD handler amongst ctxs Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 18:13 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-20 9:56 ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-21 14:40 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-21 14:53 ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-21 15:09 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 16:37 ` [PATCH 00/12] libxl: fork: SIGCHLD flexibility Ian Jackson
2014-01-17 22:29 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-20 18:14 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-21 14:46 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-21 15:11 ` [PATCH 13/12] libxl: events: Break out libxl__pipe_nonblock, _close Ian Jackson
2014-01-21 15:11 ` [PATCH 14/12] libxl: fork: Make SIGCHLD self-pipe nonblocking Ian Jackson
2014-01-21 15:32 ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-21 15:48 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-21 15:27 ` [PATCH 13/12] libxl: events: Break out libxl__pipe_nonblock, _close Ian Campbell
2014-01-21 15:31 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-21 15:28 ` [PATCH 00/12] libxl: fork: SIGCHLD flexibility Ian Jackson
2014-01-22 5:32 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-23 4:05 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-23 10:56 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-23 21:36 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-24 4:27 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-24 12:41 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-24 12:52 ` Ian Campbell
2014-01-24 15:14 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-24 15:18 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-24 16:36 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-24 16:57 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-27 5:39 ` Jim Fehlig [this message]
2014-01-27 5:22 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-27 14:48 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-28 1:39 ` [libvirt] [Xen-devel] " Jim Fehlig
2014-01-28 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-01-29 16:23 ` [libvirt] " Ian Jackson
2014-01-30 12:18 ` [libvirt] [Xen-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2014-01-30 16:14 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-30 16:17 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-01-30 16:28 ` Ian Jackson
2014-01-30 16:56 ` Jim Fehlig
2014-01-30 17:12 ` [libvirt] [Xen-devel] " Ian Jackson
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