From: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>
Subject: Re: RING_HAS_UNCONSUMED_REQUESTS oddness
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:27:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53206ED4.1030507@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1394620083.21145.21.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
On 12/03/14 10:28, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 23:24 +0000, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>> On 11/03/14 15:44, Ian Campbell wrote:
>
>>> Is it the case that this macro considers a request to be unconsumed if
>>> the *response* to a request is outstanding as well as if the request
>>> itself is still on the ring?
>> I don't think that would make sense. I think everywhere where this macro
>> is called the caller is not interested in pending request (pending means
>> consumed but not responded)
>
> It might be interested in such pending requests in some of the
> pathological cases I allude to in the next paragraph though?
>
> For example if the ring has unconsumed requests but there are no slots
> free for a response, it would be better to treat it as no unconsumed
> requests until space opens up for a response, otherwise something else
> just has to abort the processing of the request when it notices the lack
> of space.
>
> (I'm totally speculating here BTW, I don't have any concrete idea why
> things are done this way...)
>
>
>>> I wonder if this apparently weird construction is due to pathological
>>> cases when one or the other end is not picking up requests/responses?
>>> i.e. trying to avoid deadlocking the ring or generating an interrupt
>>> storm when the ring it is full of one or the other or something along
>>> those lines?
>
>
Also, let me quote again my example about when rsp makes sense:
"To clarify what does this do, let me show an example:
req_prod = 253
req_cons = 256
rsp_prod_pvt = 0
req will be UINT_MAX-2, as the values changed in the meantime, and rsp
is 0. It's reasonable to return 0 here, as the backend hasn't replied
anything yet, so we clearly shouldn't have any unconsumed request in the
ring."
Zoli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-12 14:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-06 15:47 RING_HAS_UNCONSUMED_REQUESTS oddness Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-06 15:53 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-06 16:31 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-06 17:30 ` Tim Deegan
2014-03-06 21:39 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-07 9:23 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-07 17:43 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-07 12:02 ` Wei Liu
2014-03-07 18:58 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-11 15:55 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 23:34 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-13 16:38 ` [PATCH RFC] xen/public/ring.h: simplify RING_HAS_UNCONSUMED_REQUESTS() Tim Deegan
2014-03-22 14:18 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-22 17:14 ` Tim Deegan
2014-03-24 7:38 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-24 9:39 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-24 9:59 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-24 11:03 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-24 12:23 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-24 13:52 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-24 23:55 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-04-03 9:38 ` Tim Deegan
2014-04-03 15:34 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-11 15:44 ` RING_HAS_UNCONSUMED_REQUESTS oddness Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 23:24 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 10:28 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 10:48 ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-03-12 11:25 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 11:38 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 14:41 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 15:23 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 15:42 ` Wei Liu
2014-03-12 15:56 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 16:02 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 16:13 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 16:42 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 19:06 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-13 9:26 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-13 10:02 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-13 10:58 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-13 12:19 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-13 12:28 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-13 12:29 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-13 12:44 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 14:25 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 14:27 ` Zoltan Kiss [this message]
2014-03-12 14:30 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 15:14 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 15:37 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 17:14 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 17:43 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 21:10 ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-13 10:04 ` Ian Campbell
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