From: Nate Studer <nate.studer@dornerworks.com>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Cc: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
Xi Sisu <xisisu@gmail.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>,
Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Robert VanVossen <robert.vanvossen@dornerworks.com>,
josh.whitehead@dornerworks.com
Subject: Re: [RFC Patch 0/3] Putting the "Simple" back in sedf.
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:31:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53236731.4060702@dornerworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53236303.5070701@dornerworks.com>
On 3/14/2014 4:13 PM, Nate Studer wrote:
> On 3/14/2014 3:22 PM, George Dunlap wrote:
>> On 03/14/2014 07:13 PM, Nathan Studer wrote:
>>> From: Nathan Studer <nate.studer@dornerworks.com>
>>>
>>> With the increased interest in embedded Xen, there is a need for a suitable
>>> real-time scheduler. The arinc653 scheduler currently only supports a
>>> single core and has limited niche appeal, while the sedf scheduler is
>>> widely consider deprecated and is currently a mess.
>>>
>>> Since both the CBS scheduler proposed by Dario and the schedulers of Xen-RT
>>> use an edf scheduler as the lowest-level scheduling mechanism, it seems
>>> worthwhile to start repurposing the sedf scheduler instead of creating a
>>> completely new scheduler.
>>>
>>> This patchset begins this repurposing by removing the extra scheduling code
>>> that has built up over the years, and returns the sedf scheduler to its
>>> simple roots.
>>
>> Hey Nate,
>>
>> Thanks for these patches -- what you describe at a high level, making
>> sedf a suitable rts for embedded applications, sounds like a great idea.
>>
>> I think what might be helpful in evaluating whether these patches are a
>> good idea at the high level is a bit of a description of where you see
>> this going long-term. Can you sketch out, at a high level, what you
>> envision the sedf scheduler becoming? What kinds of parameters and
>> features *will* it have?
>
> In the long term, a more extensible version of Dario's favorite scheduler, CBS
> (Constant Bandwidth Server): a selectable budgeting algorithm that sets vcpu
> deadlines with the sedf scheduler on the backend scheduling the vcpu with the
> earliest deadline. Preferably it would support other budgeting algorithms as
> well such as Total Bandwidth Server, etc...
Speaking of Dario, I got his e-mail address wrong. My apologies.
CC'ing his correct address.
>
> The parameters for the scheduler would be the budgeting algorithm, server
> budget, and the server period. The parameters for the domains/vcpus would be
> domain/vcpu budget/timeslice and domain/vcpu period.
>
> Those are our ideas though and I know that Dario and others have ideas as well,
> so any feedback is appreciated.
>
> In the short term, we are working on upstreaming a version of the CBS scheduler.
> Dario mentored Josh Whitehead, who works with me, in implementing a crude
> version of it for his undergraduate project, so we are already half-way there.
>
> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Archived/GSoC_2013#Temporal_Isolation_and_Multiprocessor_Support_in_the_SEDF_Scheduler
>
> Nate
>
>>
>> -George
>>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-14 20:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-14 19:13 [RFC Patch 0/3] Putting the "Simple" back in sedf Nathan Studer
2014-03-14 19:13 ` [RFC Patch 1/3] Remove sedf extra, weight, and latency parameter support Nathan Studer
2014-03-17 8:13 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-17 17:02 ` Dario Faggioli
2014-03-21 11:16 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-21 12:25 ` Nate Studer
2014-03-21 16:16 ` Dario Faggioli
2014-03-21 16:50 ` Sisu Xi
2014-03-24 15:44 ` Dario Faggioli
2014-03-14 19:13 ` [RFC Patch 2/3] Remove extra queues, latency scaling, and weight support from sedf Nathan Studer
2014-03-14 19:13 ` [RFC Patch 3/3] Fix formatting and misleading comments/variables in sedf Nathan Studer
2014-03-17 16:49 ` Dario Faggioli
2014-03-17 17:00 ` Nate Studer
2014-03-14 19:22 ` [RFC Patch 0/3] Putting the "Simple" back " George Dunlap
2014-03-14 20:13 ` Nate Studer
2014-03-14 20:31 ` Nate Studer [this message]
2014-03-17 10:29 ` Dario Faggioli
2014-03-17 15:51 ` Dario Faggioli
2014-03-17 17:01 ` Sisu Xi
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