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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Fabio Fantoni <fabio.fantoni@m2r.biz>, Matt Wilson <msw@linux.com>
Cc: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] remove xend for 4.5 (Was: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Exclude xend from toolstack maintainers entry)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:08:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <533976CA.3050103@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5339763C.7020007@m2r.biz>

On 03/31/2014 03:05 PM, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
> Il 31/03/2014 15:17, George Dunlap ha scritto:
>> On 03/31/2014 01:16 PM, Matt Wilson wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 01:03:25PM +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
>>>> On 03/31/2014 12:56 PM, Matt Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:18:53PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 13:09 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't really like adding more of 'xend has this' to the list,
>>>>>> that's ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> Jan discovered that 'xend' was using the group assigment 
>>>>>>> hypercall for
>>>>>>> PCI devices while 'xl' is not doing that.
>>>>>>> That hypercall has certain benefits - you can use it to figure 
>>>>>>> out if
>>>>>>> all of the PCI devices underneath a bridge are assigned to one
>>>>>>> guest and not shared amongts the guests.
>>>>>> I think this is at the wishlist rather than blocker end of the 
>>>>>> spectrum,
>>>>>> and probably falls under the general category of "xl pci 
>>>>>> passthrough has
>>>>>> sharp edges"? Does that sound right?
>>>>> Probably. There are other areas that are mightily sharp as well. They
>>>>> might not be blockers for the project to remove Xend code from the
>>>>> tree, but they'll be blockers for adoption of newer releases that
>>>>> don't include Xend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another for the list is AER handling. That's only implemented in Xend
>>>>> now [1].
>>>> Well, given that AER was not mentioned 6 months ago when this came
>>>> up, it seems that keeping xend in tree is a blocker for people
>>>> actually asking for things to be added to xl.
>>> Actually, we discussed it on the phone [1]. Unfortunately I didn't
>>> complete my assigned action item to post on the list.
>>
>> Ah, right. :-)
>>
>> In any case, the relevant question isn't so much "Is this a blocker 
>> for xend removal", so much as "Is xl support for this a blocker for 
>> the 4.5 release?"
>
> There is another thing to do in libxl to solve the problem of network 
> not working after restore.
> Actually the only workaround is to assign fixed mac address in xl cfg.
> I reported this during 4.2 development but it was too late to "fix" it 
> if I remember good.
>
> Thanks for any reply.

Yes, this is on our list, and I think it should be a blocker for 4.5.

For future reference, please don't change the subject -- this thread is 
about xend / xl functionality, not general 4.5 planning. (Hopefully 
those e-mails should start soon.)

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-31 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-20 13:20 [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Exclude xend from toolstack maintainers entry Ian Campbell
2014-03-20 13:32 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-20 14:02   ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 11:00     ` [GIT PULL] remove xend for 4.5 (Was: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Exclude xend from toolstack maintainers entry) Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 11:08       ` George Dunlap
2014-03-27 11:18         ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 12:03           ` George Dunlap
2014-03-27 12:12             ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 12:15               ` George Dunlap
2014-03-27 12:23                 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 12:01         ` Olaf Hering
2014-03-27 12:13           ` George Dunlap
2014-03-27 12:14           ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-27 12:31             ` Olaf Hering
2014-03-28 17:09         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-31 11:18           ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-31 11:56             ` Matt Wilson
2014-03-31 12:03               ` George Dunlap
2014-03-31 12:16                 ` Matt Wilson
2014-03-31 13:17                   ` George Dunlap
2014-03-31 14:05                     ` Fabio Fantoni
2014-03-31 14:08                       ` George Dunlap [this message]
2014-03-31 14:52                         ` Sander Eikelenboom
2014-03-31 15:07             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-31 13:13           ` George Dunlap
2014-03-31 15:06             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-03-20 13:32 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Exclude xend from toolstack maintainers entry Ian Jackson
2014-03-20 14:04   ` Ian Campbell

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