From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, tim@xen.org,
stefano.stabellini@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/13] xen/arm: Add the property "protected-devices" in the hypervisor node
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 14:10:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <533EAF35.4060804@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1396615521.4211.218.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
On 04/04/2014 01:45 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 12:23 +0100, Julien Grall wrote:
>> On 04/04/2014 12:13 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> We could enable both of those things only at the point where vm_assist
>>> was called.
>>
>> [..]
>>
>>> I think we can reasonably require that vm_assist be called super early,
>>> i.e. before any DMA operations occur, in Linux terms I think
>>> early_initcall(xen_guest_init) is likely early enough, or we could move
>>> xen_guestr_init even sooner.
>>
>> IHMO, this solution is far too complicate and we will have to fork from
>> the current IOMMU framework.
>
> Eh? On the Linux side? You just call this hypercall super early so that
> you are sure no drivers have initialised yet and you are done, there is
> no need to fork anything AFAICT. And in any case if any generic
> framework needs extending to better work with Xen then we should do
> that, not fork it or make a worse design to sidestep the need.
>
> Obviously there will be complexity on the Xen side, but I think far too
> complicated will be an overstatement.
I was talking about Xen side. The current IOMMU platform would need some
rework to support it.
For me this solution is far too complicate compare to the other
solutions (e.g ELF note).
>
>>> We also have the option of a build time feature flag in the image itself
>>> like on x86. It is likely that going forward we will have other cases
>>> where we wished we had such a thing so getting it in place now would be
>>> useful.
>>
>> I definitely prefer this solution which seems more cleaner than the others.
>>
>> Is it possible to embedded notes in a zImage? How x86 handle other
>> format than ELF?
>
> The x86 bzImage format embeds an ELF file, which something which was
> done long ago to improve things for Xen PV x86 use which wants to boot
> an ELF.
>
> ARM zImage doesn't currently have anything like that so you would be
> looking at an image format extension.
Ok. So it will be easy to add support for ELF image. However for zImage,
do you think Linux ARM maintainers will accept a change in the format?
--
Julien Grall
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-04 13:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-11 15:49 [PATCH v3 00/13] IOMMU support for ARM Julien Grall
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] xen/common: grant-table: only call IOMMU if paging mode translate is disabled Julien Grall
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] xen/passthrough: amd: Remove domain_id from hvm_iommu Julien Grall
2014-03-18 16:19 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 16:32 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] xen/dts: Add dt_property_read_bool Julien Grall
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] xen/dts: Add dt_parse_phandle_with_args and dt_parse_phandle Julien Grall
2014-03-18 16:20 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] xen/passthrough: rework dom0_pvh_reqs to use it also on ARM Julien Grall
2014-03-18 16:22 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 17:28 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-18 17:50 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 18:19 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-19 10:01 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] xen/passthrough: iommu: Split generic IOMMU code Julien Grall
2014-03-11 16:50 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-11 17:09 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-12 7:15 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-18 16:24 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 17:36 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-18 17:50 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 18:21 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-19 10:02 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] xen/passthrough: iommu: Introduce arch specific code Julien Grall
2014-03-11 16:15 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-11 16:53 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-18 16:27 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 19:40 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] xen/passthrough: iommu: Basic support of device tree assignment Julien Grall
2014-03-11 16:55 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-18 16:33 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 19:46 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-19 10:12 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-19 10:42 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-19 10:54 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] xen/passthrough: Introduce IOMMU ARM architecture Julien Grall
2014-03-18 16:40 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 19:58 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-19 10:29 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] MAINTAINERS: Add drivers/passthrough/arm Julien Grall
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] xen/arm: Don't give IOMMU devices to dom0 when iommu is disabled Julien Grall
2014-03-18 16:41 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] xen/arm: Add the property "protected-devices" in the hypervisor node Julien Grall
2014-03-18 16:48 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 20:09 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-19 10:33 ` Ian Campbell
2014-04-03 21:51 ` Julien Grall
2014-04-04 9:40 ` Ian Campbell
2014-04-04 10:25 ` Julien Grall
2014-04-04 10:28 ` Ian Campbell
2014-04-04 10:39 ` Julien Grall
2014-04-04 10:48 ` Ian Campbell
2014-04-04 11:01 ` Julien Grall
2014-04-04 11:13 ` Ian Campbell
2014-04-04 11:23 ` Julien Grall
2014-04-04 12:45 ` Ian Campbell
2014-04-04 13:10 ` Julien Grall [this message]
2014-04-04 13:18 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 15:49 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] drivers/passthrough: arm: Add support for SMMU drivers Julien Grall
2014-03-18 16:54 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-18 20:25 ` Julien Grall
2014-03-19 10:35 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-19 10:44 ` Julien Grall
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