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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	keir@xen.org, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	jbeulich@suse.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Expose hypervisor's PVH support via xen_caps
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 11:53:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <537F6F02.7060704@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <537F6AA4.9020501@citrix.com>

On 05/23/2014 11:35 AM, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On 23/05/14 17:32, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>> On 05/23/2014 11:20 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>> On 23/05/14 16:08, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>> On 05/23/2014 11:00 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>>> On 23/05/14 15:55, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     xen/arch/x86/setup.c | 5 +++++
>>>>>>     1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>>> If the plan is to try and PVH and HVM back into one mode as far as Xen
>>>>> is concerned, doesn't this become redundant?
>>>> Yes, I was thinking about this but we currently don't have (or,
>>>> rather, I can't think of) a good way to determine whether we can start
>>>> a PVH guest. We can grep the log but that doesn't feel like a
>>>> particularly good solution.
>>>>
>>>> One option could be to postpone this patch until 4.5 freezes and see
>>>> whether we indeed followed up on the plan and if we didn't then
>>>> integrate it.
>>>>
>>>> -boris
>>> My concern here is that if this patch gets accepted, it will have to say
>>> forever more as the cap strings are a very public API.
>> Yes, that's true.
>>
>> The problem that we have now is that if we have 'pvh=1' in the config
>> file the guest will fail to start if PVH is not on. Can we, for example,
>> revert (with a warning) to pure PV if that's the case?
> Won't this option go away once PVH is stable, so the toolstack can
> detect if the kernel supports PVH and start the guest in this mode by
> default? (of course falling back to PV if PVH is not supported).

Yes, it will, by virtue of hypervisor never having to take this action 
(reverting to PV) since PVH would be stable and always supported.

I just don't know whether ignoring pvh=1 directive on systems where PVH 
is not supported is acceptable. (Your "of course" seems to indicate that 
you think it is.)

-boris

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-23 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-23 14:55 [PATCH] x86: Expose hypervisor's PVH support via xen_caps Boris Ostrovsky
2014-05-23 15:00 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-05-23 15:08   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-05-23 15:20     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-05-23 15:32       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-05-23 15:35         ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-05-23 15:53           ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2014-05-28  9:42             ` Ian Campbell
2014-05-28 18:18               ` boris ostrovsky
2014-05-28 21:12               ` Mukesh Rathor
2014-05-26  9:33       ` Jan Beulich
2014-05-27  3:03         ` Boris Ostrovsky

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