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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Andres Lagar Cavilla <andres@lagarcavilla.org>,
	"Aravindh Puthiyaparambil (aravindp)" <aravindp@cisco.com>
Cc: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Xen/mem_event: Prevent underflow of vcpu pause counts
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:07:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C81F01.4040105@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADzFZPu4=R0nxPFeXeROX=-rAm8j-51JgPg_NDnbbkEfWV4d8Q@mail.gmail.com>


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On 17/07/14 19:54, Andres Lagar Cavilla wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Aravindh Puthiyaparambil (aravindp)
> <aravindp@cisco.com <mailto:aravindp@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>     >> +void mem_event_vcpu_unpause(struct vcpu *v) {
>     >> +    if ( test_and_clear_bool(v->paused_for_mem_event) )
>     >
>     >And now that we consider more than one mem event piling up to pause a
>     >vcpu, this has to become an atomic counter, which unpauses on
>     zero, and
>     >takes care of underflow.
>
>     Very true. I have seen this event pile up occur in practice in our
>     product.
>
> The problem becomes how to tell apart real event responses that should
> dec the pause count from spurious crap from the toolstack. IOW, how to
> not unpause the vcpu when count reaches zero due to bad responses. I
> think the answer is: you can't, if the toolstack is evil, behavior
> undefined and bigger fish to fry.
>
> Andres

You really can't, but the important bit is to ensure that Xen is
sufficiently insulated from buggy toolstack components that it doesn't
fall over.

>From my experimenting with the pausedomain refcoutnging, weird stuff
happens when the domain pause count turns negative.  I ended up with a
domain which would never be scheduled again (even after returning the
count to positive and back to 0), and a domain which couldn't be killed
using `xl destroy`.  Rebooting was the only option.

So long as Xen doesn't fall into these problems, a buggy toolstack
(especially with mem_events) already has many ways to screw over a
domain, so one more is not a problem.

~Andrew

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-17 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 13:10 [PATCH 0/2] Xen/mem_event: Do not rely on the toolstack being bug-free Andrew Cooper
2014-07-17 13:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] Xen/mem_event: Validate the response vcpu_id before acting on it Andrew Cooper
2014-07-17 18:33   ` Andres Lagar Cavilla
2014-07-17 13:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] Xen/mem_event: Prevent underflow of vcpu pause counts Andrew Cooper
2014-07-17 18:38   ` Andres Lagar Cavilla
     [not found]     ` <CAGU+auv8zMj+xqU8KhbQSZXM+J+HovjV=TZMab5Z+nzNCvpjaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-17 18:51       ` Aravindh Puthiyaparambil (aravindp)
2014-07-17 18:54         ` Andres Lagar Cavilla
2014-07-17 18:57           ` Aravindh Puthiyaparambil (aravindp)
2014-07-17 19:07           ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2014-07-17 19:18             ` Aravindh Puthiyaparambil (aravindp)
2014-07-17 18:55     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-07-18  9:42     ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-18 10:41   ` [PATCH v2 " Andrew Cooper
2014-07-18 13:47     ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-07-18 13:53     ` [PATCH v3 " Andrew Cooper
2014-07-18 16:37       ` Andres Lagar Cavilla
2014-07-18 16:44         ` Andrew Cooper
2014-07-18 17:29       ` Aravindh Puthiyaparambil (aravindp)
2014-07-17 13:23 ` [PATCH 0/2] Xen/mem_event: Do not rely on the toolstack being bug-free Tim Deegan
2014-07-17 14:40 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-07-17 14:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-07-17 14:50     ` Razvan Cojocaru
     [not found] ` <CAGU+auuzOr5HSErrxmyhtxtP74gn=0L5TAZGR8FWBF6MeGFxUA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-17 19:01   ` Aravindh Puthiyaparambil (aravindp)
2014-07-17 20:26     ` Razvan Cojocaru
2014-07-17 22:17       ` Tamas Lengyel
2014-07-17 22:42         ` Andrew Cooper

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