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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	Andrii Tseglytskyi <andrii.tseglytskyi@globallogic.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v02 1/7] arm: introduce remoteprocessor iommu module
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:29:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53CE672F.9050501@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1407221340310.2295@kaball.uk.xensource.com>

On 07/22/2014 01:42 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2014, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 14:59 +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014, Andrii Tseglytskyi wrote:
>>>> This is a fisrst patch from patch series which was
>>>> developed to handle remote (external) processors
>>>> memory management units. Remote processors are
>>>> typically used for graphic rendering (GPUs) and
>>>> high quality video decoding (IPUs). They are typically
>>>> installed on such multimedia SoCs as OMAP4 / OMAP5.
>>>>
>>>> As soon as remoteprocessor MMU typically works with
>>>> pagetables filled by physical addresses, which are
>>>> allocated by domU kernel, it is almost impossible to
>>>> use them under Xen, intermediate physical addresses
>>>> allocated by kernel, need to be translated to machine
>>>> addresses.
>>>>
>>>> This patch introduces a simple framework to perform
>>>> pfn -> mfn translation for external MMUs.
>>>> It introduces basic data structures and algorithms
>>>> needed for translation.
>>>>
>>>> Typically, when MMU is configured, some it registers
>>>> are updated by new values. Introduced frameworks
>>>> uses traps as starting point of remoteproc MMUs
>>>> pagetables translation.
>>>>
>>>> Change-Id: Ia4d311a40289df46a003f5ae8706c150bee1885d
>>>> Signed-off-by: Andrii Tseglytskyi <andrii.tseglytskyi@globallogic.com>
>>>
>>> There is one problem with this patch: you need to find a way to "pin"
>>> the p2m entries for the pfns and mfns found in the pagetables translated
>>> by remoteproc_iommu.c.  Otherwise Xen might decide to change the pfn to
>>> mfn mappings for the domain, breaking the pagetables already translated
>>> by remoteproc_iommu.c.  pfn to mfn mappings are not guaranteed to be
>>> stable. At the moment Xen on ARM wouldn't change pfn to mfn mappings
>>> under the guest feet, but features like memory sharing or swapping,
>>> supported on x86, could cause it to happen.
>>
>> I've not fully grokked this patch but wouldn't it be easier and better
>> to have a hook to cause the remoteproc to throw away and rebuild its
>> mappings when this happens? It could be called from e.g. the TLB flush
>> associated with the p2m changing, I think.
>  
> I guess it depends on how often Xen or the Xen tools are going to change
> the p2m for a running domain. For example changing one page mapping a
> couple of times a second would be very expensive if we have to rebuild
> the remoteproc pagetables every time.

The kernel could also change the p2m mapping via the ballooning driver.

Regards,

-- 
Julien Grall

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-22 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-26 11:06 [PATCH v02 0/7] arm: introduce remoteprocessor iommu module Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-26 11:07 ` [PATCH v02 1/7] " Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-29 18:00   ` Julien Grall
2014-07-22 15:20     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-22 16:29       ` Julien Grall
2014-07-31 11:59       ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-31 12:11         ` Julien Grall
2014-07-31 12:49           ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-04 13:59   ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-16 15:19     ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-22 12:42       ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-22 13:29         ` Julien Grall [this message]
2014-07-22 16:31           ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-22 17:22         ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-23 10:32           ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-23 10:54             ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-22 15:40       ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-22 15:32     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-08-01 10:06       ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-08-01 10:32         ` Julien Grall
2014-08-01 10:34           ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-08-01 10:37             ` Julien Grall
2014-08-01 10:43               ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-08-20 19:40     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-08-21 15:30       ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-08-21 23:41         ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-08-21 23:43       ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-16 15:29   ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-16 15:34     ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-22 16:24       ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-22 16:14     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-26 11:07 ` [PATCH v02 2/7] arm: omap: introduce iommu translation for IPU remoteproc Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-04 14:01   ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-22 16:56     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-04 14:30   ` Julien Grall
2014-07-22 16:58     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-16 15:36   ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-22 17:16     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-26 11:07 ` [PATCH v02 3/7] arm: omap: introduce iommu translation for GPU remoteproc Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-26 11:07 ` [PATCH v02 4/7] arm: omap: introduce print pagetable function for IPU remoteproc Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-16 15:38   ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-22 16:55     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-26 11:07 ` [PATCH v02 5/7] arm: omap: introduce print pagetable function for GPU remoteproc Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-26 11:07 ` [PATCH v02 6/7] arm: introduce do_translate_pagetable hypercall Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-04 14:05   ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-16 15:42     ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-22 16:47       ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-22 16:37     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-04 14:35   ` Julien Grall
2014-07-16 15:43     ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-22 16:50       ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-22 16:39     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-07-22 16:44       ` Julien Grall
2014-07-22 16:48         ` Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-26 11:07 ` [PATCH v02 7/7] arm: add trap for remoteproc mmio accesses Andrii Tseglytskyi
2014-06-26 16:52   ` Julien Grall
2014-06-27  8:36     ` Andrii Tseglytskyi

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