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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] Add vmware_hw to xl.cfg
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 15:07:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540DB822.1080603@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <540DB5A7.5060804@terremark.com>

On 08/09/14 14:56, Don Slutz wrote:
> On 09/08/14 09:20, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 08:45 +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 02.09.14 at 20:24, <dslutz@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>> On 09/02/14 03:28, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 01.09.14 at 17:33, <dslutz@verizon.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So based on this, I picked the order:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 0x40000000 is viridian, vmware or xen
>>>>>> 0x40000100 is vmware or xen
>>>>>> 0x40000200 is xen
>>>>> Is there really a point in enabling both Viridian and VMware
>>>>> extensions
>>>>> at the same time?
>>>> Not that I know of (and I do not want to say there there is no code
>>>> out there that can work with both).  Instead of an error or warning
>>>> I went with what xen is currently doing and that seabios was happy
>>>> to find xen at 0x40000200.
>>>>
>>>> If the consensus is to ignore, or report an error or warning I will
>>>> go that
>>>> way.  For now I am not planning on changing.
>>> My personal take on this is that the hypervisor (or perhaps already
>>> the tools) should reject enabling both at the same time.
>> That sounds sensible to me.
>>
>> Generally we seem to have the hypervisor check these things as a
>> backstop, to stop broken tools, but also check in the tools so we can
>> give a better error message.
>>
>
> Ok, with 2 votes this way how about (for v4) I will drop the change to
> xen/arch/x86/traps.c (I.E. 0x40000100 will be xen)  And change
>
> cpuid_vmware_leaves to return 0 if is_viridian_domain().
>
> And add some logic in the and doc in the tools patch to do this error
> message.
>
>    -Don Slutz

I expect that Vmware will expose viridian to windows domains, as it is
the only supported Microsoft way of doing doing virt for windows. 
Therefore it is entirely plausible that both could need to be active at
once.  (Although this does depend on whether the vmware leaf supports
being somewhere other than 0x40000000, as the viridian leaf certainly
doesn't.)

Either way, the current 0x4000xxxx leaf handling is somewhat special in
Xen, as the viridian support was hacked in after the Xen leafs were
already present.  It is one area I was planning to fix up as part of my
cpuid levelling work for 4.6

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-08 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-01 15:33 [PATCH v2 0/3] Xen VMware tools support Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Add vmware_hw to xl.cfg Don Slutz
2014-09-02  7:28   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-02 18:24     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03  7:45       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 10:59         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03 12:33           ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 12:51             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:21           ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:47             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:55               ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:20         ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:56           ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 14:07             ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2014-09-08 18:39               ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 22:11               ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 23:34                 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-08 14:21             ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-08 15:16               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-08 15:27                 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-08 22:41                   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:17   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:27     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-08 13:41       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 14:18         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 19:16     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09  9:39       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-09 17:02         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-10  9:30           ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-10 17:44             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-12 12:25             ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-08 22:14     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] vmport: Add VMware provided include files Don Slutz
2014-09-02  7:34   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-02 18:46     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03  7:51       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 12:38         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-01 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Add limited support of VMware's hyper-call Don Slutz
2014-09-02  8:16   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03  0:55     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-03  8:25       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-03 18:28         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:35   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 16:57     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09  9:36       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-09 17:31         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-09 19:22           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-10  9:32           ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-10 17:25             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-01 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Xen VMware tools support Jan Beulich
2014-09-01 18:14   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:03 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-08 13:18   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-08 13:42     ` Ian Campbell

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