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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
Cc: keir@xen.org, Ian.Campbell@citrix.com,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com,
	Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 01/11] multicall: add no preemption ability between two calls
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:15:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540F19AF0200007800032AD1@mail.emea.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <540EF624.4020200@citrix.com>

>>> On 09.09.14 at 14:44, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
> On 09/09/14 12:51, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 09.09.14 at 12:51, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/09/14 11:39, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>> On 09.09.14 at 08:43, <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 11:46:20AM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/09/14 09:37, Chao Peng wrote:
>>>>>>> Add a flag to indicate if the execution can be preempted between two
>>>>>>> calls. If not specified, stay preemptable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>  xen/common/multicall.c   |    5 ++++-
>>>>>>>  xen/include/public/xen.h |    4 ++++
>>>>>>>  2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/xen/common/multicall.c b/xen/common/multicall.c
>>>>>>> index fa9d910..83b96eb 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/xen/common/multicall.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/xen/common/multicall.c
>>>>>>> @@ -40,6 +40,7 @@ do_multicall(
>>>>>>>      struct mc_state *mcs = &current->mc_state;
>>>>>>>      uint32_t         i;
>>>>>>>      int              rc = 0;
>>>>>>> +    bool_t           preemptable = 0;
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>      if ( unlikely(__test_and_set_bit(_MCSF_in_multicall, &mcs->flags)) )
>>>>>>>      {
>>>>>>> @@ -52,7 +53,7 @@ do_multicall(
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>      for ( i = 0; !rc && i < nr_calls; i++ )
>>>>>>>      {
>>>>>>> -        if ( i && hypercall_preempt_check() )
>>>>>>> +        if ( preemptable && hypercall_preempt_check() )
>>>>>>>              goto preempted;
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>          if ( unlikely(__copy_from_guest(&mcs->call, call_list, 1)) )
>>>>>>> @@ -61,6 +62,8 @@ do_multicall(
>>>>>>>              break;
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> +        preemptable = mcs->call.flags & MC_NO_PREEMPT;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>> Please consider what would happen if a malicious guest set NO_PREEMPT on
>>>>>> every multicall entry.
>>>>> OK, I see. My direct purpose here is to support batch operations for
>>>>> XENPF_resource_op added in next patch. Recall what Jan suggested in v14
>>>>> comments, we have 3 possible ways to support XENPF_resource_op batch:
>>>>> 1) Add a field in the xenpf_resource_op to indicate the iteration;
>>>>> 2) Fiddle multicall mechanism, just like this patch;
>>>>> 3) Add a brand new hypercall.
>>>>>
>>>>> So perhaps I will give up option 2) before I can see any improvement
>>>>> here. While option 3) is aggressive, so I'd go option 1) through I also
>>>>> don't quite like it (Totally because the iteration is transparent for user).
>>>> The I suppose you didn't really understand Andrew's comment: I
>>>> don't think he was suggesting to drop the approach, but instead
>>>> to implement it properly (read: securely).
>>> That is certainly one part of it.
>>>
>>> However, there is the other open question (dropped from this context) of
>>> how to deal with a multicall which has NO_PREEMT set, which itself
>>> preempts, and I don't have a good answer for this.
>> The pretty natural answer to this is - the specific handler knows
>> best what to do.
> 
> Given our past history at retrofitting preempting into existing
> hypercalls, the multicaller has no idea whether the ops they have
> selected will preempt or not, and no way to guarentee that the behaviour
> will stay the same in future.
> 
> The multicall dispatches to the regular hypercall handlers, which
> (cant?)

They can - current->mc_state.flags has _MCSF_in_multicall
set.

> and certainly shouldn't distinguish between a regular hypercall
> and multicall.

I agree with this. Yet it's a bug in the caller to request no
preemption at this layer for a constituent hypercall that can itself
preempt. But that's only a problem for the caller, not for the
hypervisor.

> As I have been looking through this code, I have noticed that the NDEBUG
> parameter corruption will break half of our existing preemption logic,
> which does use some of the parameters to hold preemption information.

Certainly not - call_list is being copied over a second time a few
lines after that NDEBUG section.

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-09 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-05  8:37 [PATCH v15 00/11] enable Cache QoS Monitoring (CQM) feature Chao Peng
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 01/11] multicall: add no preemption ability between two calls Chao Peng
2014-09-05 10:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-09  6:43     ` Chao Peng
2014-09-09 10:39       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-09 10:51         ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-09 11:51           ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-09 12:44             ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-09 13:15               ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2014-09-10  1:32                 ` Chao Peng
2014-09-10  9:43                   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-10 10:07                     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-10 10:15                       ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-10 10:25                         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-10 11:12                           ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-12  2:55                             ` Chao Peng
2014-09-17  9:22                               ` Chao Peng
2014-09-17  9:44                                 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-18 13:45                                   ` Chao Peng
2014-09-18 14:22                                     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 02/11] x86: add generic resource (e.g. MSR) access hypercall Chao Peng
2014-09-05 10:59   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-05 11:49     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-10  2:55     ` Chao Peng
2014-09-29 18:52       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-30  7:45         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 03/11] xsm: add resource operation related xsm policy Chao Peng
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 04/11] tools: provide interface for generic resource access Chao Peng
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 05/11] x86: detect and initialize Platform QoS Monitoring feature Chao Peng
2014-09-05 11:05   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 06/11] x86: dynamically attach/detach QoS monitoring service for a guest Chao Peng
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 07/11] x86: collect global QoS monitoring information Chao Peng
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 08/11] x86: enable QoS monitoring for each domain RMID Chao Peng
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 09/11] x86: add QoS monitoring related MSRs in allowed list Chao Peng
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 10/11] xsm: add platform QoS related xsm policies Chao Peng
2014-09-05  8:37 ` [PATCH v15 11/11] tools: CMDs and APIs for Platform QoS Monitoring Chao Peng

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