From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>, Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/16] Xen VMware tools support
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:52:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5422E8A6.8090609@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1411475416.1781.15.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
On 09/23/2014 01:30 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 13:19 -0400, Don Slutz wrote:
>>>> It sounds plausible, for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Even so, why can't the result of that #GP be a calldown into qemu for
>>>> further processing?
>> This is not simple in that QEMU does not have access to the VCPU
>> registers. Unlike a normal
>> I/O request, vmware_port (aka vmport) both reads and writes VCPU registers.
> Are you saying that emulating a normal in or out instruction doesn't
> require accessing vcpu registers? Are you sure? Surely it needs to
> either read the source or write the destination register somehow.
>
>>> I was only responding to the part of your comment in parentheses. :-)
>>>
>>> I suppose in large part it would depend on what the hypercalls were
>>> actually doing; I'd have to go back and look at them to say if they
>>> need to be in Xen or whether they could be passed on to qemu.
>>>
>> Clearly it is possible to pass the VCPU registers to QEMU, but that is
>> currently not done.
> I think there's an existing hypercall to get/set the state for a vcpu,
> perhaps it is too heavy weight to be used here though.
>
> An alternative would be a semantically higher level I/O req which took a
> guest pointer to a key and a guest pointer to the buffer etc, without
> needing the registers themselves.
>
>> So a new
>> version of QEMU would also be needed to go this way. None the the
>> proposed features need
>> any data from QEMU, so I do not think this make sense.
> The concern is that it is adding a load of complex looking string and
> pointer manipulation stuff to the hypervisor, the sort of thing which
> often leads to security vulnerabilities.
Do you mean the instruction decoding in vmware_gp_check()?
I was wondering how hard it would be to use the generic emulation code.
We already have to emulate IO instructions anyway. This is very
complicated code, and having it duplicated in two places seems like it's
just asking for someone to update the one and forget to update the
other, opening up a bug / security vulnerability.
The other question would be whether doing it in qemu would be fast
enough, or if there would be information needed by the hypercall that's
not available; things like GETTIME / GETTIMEFULL / GETHZ.
On the other hand, things like GETSCREENSIZE and GETGUIOPTIONS probably
*are* better handled by qemu.
-George
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-24 15:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-20 18:07 [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/16] Xen VMware tools support Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 01/16] xen: Add support for VMware cpuid leaves Don Slutz
2014-09-22 11:49 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 16:53 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 14:33 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 02/16] tools: Add vmware_hw support Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:34 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 22:08 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 14:44 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 21:06 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 03/16] vmware: Add VMware provided include files Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 04/16] xen: Add vmware_port support Don Slutz
2014-09-23 17:16 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-24 8:28 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 19:09 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:01 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 16:48 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:42 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 05/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:41 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 16:34 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 21:22 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:24 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 18:25 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-22 16:42 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-23 12:20 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-24 16:31 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:44 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 18:29 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 11:24 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 14:17 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-25 14:21 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-26 19:19 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 06/16] xen: Convert vmware_port to xentrace usage Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:27 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 19:07 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 15:14 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-29 18:10 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 07/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-25 15:18 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 08/16] xen: Add limited support of VMware's hyper-call rpc Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:47 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 21:18 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-23 12:34 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-23 22:03 ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-25 16:28 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 09/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:52 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 21:32 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-23 12:35 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 10/16] Add VMware tool's triggers Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 11/16] Add live migration of VMware's hyper-call RPC Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 12/16] Add dump of HVM_SAVE_CODE(VMPORT) to xen-hvmctx Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 13/16] Add xen-hvm-param Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 14/16] Add xen-vmware-guestinfo Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 15/16] Add xen-list-vmware-guestinfo Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 16/16] Add xen-hvm-send-trigger Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:56 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/16] Xen VMware tools support Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:19 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 15:34 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:38 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 15:50 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:55 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 17:19 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-22 22:00 ` Tian, Kevin
2014-09-23 12:30 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-23 12:35 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-23 12:40 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-24 15:52 ` George Dunlap [this message]
2014-09-24 18:09 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:19 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 20:21 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-26 19:03 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-26 19:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-25 11:35 ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 16:18 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-22 18:32 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 10:37 ` Tim Deegan
2014-09-26 20:00 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-29 6:50 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 13:27 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-29 13:49 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 23:13 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-30 7:05 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-30 10:02 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-30 22:11 ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-30 10:09 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-30 22:23 ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-10-02 10:05 ` Tim Deegan
2014-10-02 19:20 ` Don Slutz
2014-10-03 7:09 ` Tim Deegan
2014-09-22 15:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 18:39 ` Don Slutz
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