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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: kevin.tian@intel.com, keir@xen.org,
	suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	tim@xen.org, dietmar.hahn@ts.fujitsu.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com,
	jun.nakajima@intel.com, dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 16/20] x86/VPMU: Handle PMU interrupts for PV guests
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:53:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <542BF93E.7040505@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <542BC00A020000780003B510@mail.emea.novell.com>

On 10/01/2014 02:49 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 30.09.14 at 18:37, <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> wrote:
>> On 09/30/2014 11:44 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> +            {
>>>>>> +                r->cs = cur_regs->cs;
>>>>>> +                if ( sampled->arch.flags & TF_kernel_mode )
>>>>>> +                    r->cs &= ~3;
>>>>> And once again I wonder how the consumer of this data is to tell
>>>>> apart guest kernel and hypervisor addresses.
>>>> Based on the RIP --- perf, for example, searches through various symbol
>>>> tables.
>>> That doesn't help when profiling HVM/PVH guests - addresses are
>>> ambiguous in that case.
>> Hypervisor traces are only sent to dom0, which is currently PV only. The
>> key here, of course, is the word 'currently'.
> So you completely ignore PVH Dom0? Experimental or not, I don't
> think that's the way to go.

As I mentioned in an earlier reply, I will set domain_id in the reported 
structure to DOMID_XEN when we are reporting hypervisor sample.

> Furthermore the check around this is
> once again using sampled, not sampling.

Which check are you referring to?

>
> Looking at the separation of hypervisor vs guest context to report
> again
>
>              /* Non-privileged domains are always in XENPMU_MODE_SELF mode */
>              if ( (vpmu_mode & XENPMU_MODE_SELF) ||
>                   (!is_hardware_domain(sampled->domain) &&
>                    !is_idle_vcpu(sampled)) )
>                  cur_regs = guest_cpu_user_regs();
>              else
>                  cur_regs = regs;
>
> I now additionally wonder why the condition here isn't just the SELF
> check: If the interrupt happened while in the hypervisor, why would
> you override this unconditionally to report a guest sample instead?
> Shouldn't the profiling domain tell you what it wants in that case
> (global vs guest local view)?

The second part of the check (!is_hardware_domain(sampled->domain) && 
!is_idle_vcpu(sampled)) is to prevent sending hypervisor sample to a 
non-privileged guest. vpmu_mode may be, for example, XENPMU_MODE_HV but 
that only means that dom0 can get hypervisor samples.

Perhaps the comment is confusing in that it may imply that each domain 
has its own XENPMU_MODE. Which is not true --- vpmu_mode is a global. I 
should have said that "Non-privileged domains are *effectively* always 
in XENPMU_MODE_SELF mode".

>
>>>> I suppose I can set xenpmu_data->domain_id below to either DOMID_SELF
>>>> for guest and DOMID_XEN for the hypervisor.
>>> That's an option, but I'm really having reservations against simulating
>>> ring-0 execution in PV guests here. It would certainly be better if we
>>> could report reality here, but I can see reservations on the consumer
>>> (perf) side against us doing so.
>> Yes, perf will probably not like it --- as I mentioned in an earlier
>> message, it calls user_mode(regs) which is essentially !!(regs->cs & 3).
> So you're crippling the Xen implementation in order to please one
> of potentially many consumers... Along the lines of what I said
> above, I think this ought to be controlled by the consumer of the
> interface, defaulting to not doing any masking here.

I can add a return value (flags, for example) to indicate whether we are 
in user or kernel mode. I don't want to provide another control 
interface for this.

-boris

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-01 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-25 19:28 [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 00/20] x86/PMU: Xen PMU PV(H) support Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 01/20] common/symbols: Export hypervisor symbols to privileged guest Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 14:58   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-26 15:10     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 16:49       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-29  6:43         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 13:29           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 13:47             ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 14:16               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 14:33                 ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 21:43   ` Daniel De Graaf
2014-09-26 22:12     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 02/20] x86/VPMU: Manage VPMU_CONTEXT_SAVE flag in vpmu_save_force() Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 14:49   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 03/20] x86/VPMU: Set MSR bitmaps only for HVM/PVH guests Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 14:59   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 04/20] x86/VPMU: Make vpmu macros a bit more efficient Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 05/20] intel/VPMU: Clean up Intel VPMU code Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 06/20] vmx: Merge MSR management routines Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 20:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 07/20] x86/VPMU: Handle APIC_LVTPC accesses Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 08/20] intel/VPMU: MSR_CORE_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL should be initialized to zero Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 09/20] x86/VPMU: Add public xenpmu.h Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 20:49   ` Tian, Kevin
2014-09-29 14:17   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 14:30     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 15:19       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 15:41         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 15:48           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 14:57     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 15:40       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 15:56         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 10/20] x86/VPMU: Make vpmu not HVM-specific Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 11/20] x86/VPMU: Interface for setting PMU mode and flags Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 21:04   ` Tian, Kevin
2014-09-26 21:24     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 22:00   ` Daniel De Graaf
2014-09-26 22:26     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 13:25   ` Dietmar Hahn
2014-09-29 13:56     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 14:03       ` Dietmar Hahn
2014-09-29 13:59     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 14:05       ` Dietmar Hahn
2014-09-29 15:14   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 15:34     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-10-01  0:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2014-10-01  0:56     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 12/20] x86/VPMU: Initialize PMU for PV(H) guests Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 22:16   ` Daniel De Graaf
2014-09-26 22:23     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 15:25   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 15:41     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 15:42       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 16:04         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 16:10           ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-01  0:16   ` Tian, Kevin
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 13/20] x86/VPMU: Save VPMU state for PV guests during context switch Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-29 15:52   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 14/20] x86/VPMU: When handling MSR accesses, leave fault injection to callers Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 15/20] x86/VPMU: Add support for PMU register handling on PV guests Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 16:34   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-26 16:44     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 16:49       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-29 16:04   ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-01  0:17   ` Tian, Kevin
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 16/20] x86/VPMU: Handle PMU interrupts for " Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-26 22:09   ` Daniel De Graaf
2014-09-30  8:11   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-30 15:07     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-30 15:44       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-30 16:37         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-10-01  6:49           ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-01 12:53             ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2014-10-01 13:18               ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-01 14:08                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-10-01 14:26                   ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-01 18:06                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-10-02  6:56                       ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-02 13:53                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 17/20] x86/VPMU: Merge vpmu_rdmsr and vpmu_wrmsr Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-30  8:13   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 18/20] x86/VPMU: Add privileged PMU mode Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-30  8:18   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-30 15:16     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 19/20] x86/VPMU: NMI-based VPMU support Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-30  8:37   ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-01  0:18     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-10-01  7:32       ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-25 19:28 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 20/20] x86/VPMU: Move VPMU files up from hvm/ directory Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-30  8:40   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 17:03 ` [PATCH v12 for-xen-4.5 00/20] x86/PMU: Xen PMU PV(H) support Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-29 13:28 ` Dietmar Hahn

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