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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>
To: Thomas Leonard <talex5@gmail.com>
Cc: David Scott <Dave.Scott@eu.citrix.com>,
	Anil Madhavapeddy <anil@recoil.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH ARM v8 2/4] mini-os: arm: interrupt controller
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:25:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <544FB580.7080809@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG4opy9QCRaMY41=M0HfK4vajvcE=nS+5P-L91itgOMDOBGS4w@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/28/2014 03:15 PM, Thomas Leonard wrote:
> On 22 October 2014 14:06, Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On 10/22/2014 10:03 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2014-10-21 at 23:54 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>>> Ian Campbell, le Tue 21 Oct 2014 12:00:18 +0100, a écrit :
>>>>> On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 10:20 +0100, Thomas Leonard wrote:
>>>>>> +static inline uint32_t REG_READ32(volatile uint32_t *addr)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +    uint32_t value;
>>>>>> +    __asm__ __volatile__("ldr %0, [%1]":"=&r"(value):"r"(addr));
>>>>>> +    rmb();
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not 100% convinced that you need this rmb().
>>
>> Most the GIC code doesn't require read barrier but...
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> +    return value;
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +static inline void REG_WRITE32(volatile uint32_t *addr, unsigned int value)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +    __asm__ __volatile__("str %0, [%1]"::"r"(value), "r"(addr));
>>>>>> +    wmb();
>>>>>> +}
>>
>> write barrier may be necessary on some, where we need to wait that all
>> write has been done before doing this one (such as enable the GIC ...).
>>
>> So this function is buggy. It should be:
>>
>> wmb();
>> __asm__ __volatile__(....).
> 
> gic_init does an explicit wmb() before enabling the GIC anyway,
> although I'm not really sure why it's needed (these barriers are from
> Karim's original code, so I don't know the original reason for them).
> Xen will have marked the GIC memory as device memory, so I guess we're
> protected from many effects ("The number, order and sizes of the
> accesses are maintained.").

Device memory doesn't mean the barrier are not necessary... The barriers
are there for the whole memory, not only the GIC memory.

A common use case is sending an SGI. You need to ensure that every
read/write before the SGI will be seen by the other processors.
Otherwise they may not see correctly the data.

> Maybe none of these barriers is necessary.
>>>> I don't really see why such barriers are needed indeed. Are they needed
<>>>> to actually push the values out?
>>>
>>> That would, I think, require an isb() (instruction barrier) whereas
>>> wmb() turns into a dsb() (data barrier). I expect you are write and
>>> these rmb/wmb are not needed, but an isb may be needed in the caller if
>>> they want to rely on the affect of a write (e.g. enabling the
>>> controller)
>>
>> isb is useful for cache and system control registers. We don't use such
>> things in the GIC code, because the GIC register is memory mapped. We
>> only need to ensure that the write are ordered when it's necessary (only
>> few places).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Julien Grall
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Julien Grall

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-28 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-03  9:20 [PATCH ARM v8 0/4] mini-os: initial ARM support Thomas Leonard
2014-10-03  9:20 ` [PATCH ARM v8 1/4] mini-os: arm: time Thomas Leonard
2014-10-21 10:50   ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-21 14:07     ` [PATCH incomplete] xen: arm: wallclock support (incomplete, needs work/refactoring) Ian Campbell
2014-10-26  9:51     ` [PATCH ARM v8 1/4] mini-os: arm: time Thomas Leonard
2014-10-27 10:34       ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-13 16:29         ` Thomas Leonard
2014-11-14 10:29           ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-19 20:57             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-01-08 15:52     ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-08 15:58       ` Thomas Leonard
2015-01-08 16:04         ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-03  9:20 ` [PATCH ARM v8 2/4] mini-os: arm: interrupt controller Thomas Leonard
2014-10-21 11:00   ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-21 14:26     ` Julien Grall
2014-10-21 15:16       ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-21 15:22         ` Julien Grall
2014-10-21 15:35           ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-21 16:03             ` Julien Grall
2014-10-21 18:14               ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2014-10-21 19:18                 ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-21 21:54     ` Samuel Thibault
2014-10-22  9:03       ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-22 13:06         ` Julien Grall
2014-10-22 13:14           ` Samuel Thibault
2014-10-28 15:15           ` Thomas Leonard
2014-10-28 15:25             ` Julien Grall [this message]
2014-10-28 15:43               ` Thomas Leonard
2014-10-28 15:51                 ` Julien Grall
2014-11-14 10:22                   ` Thomas Leonard
2014-11-14 11:33                     ` Julien Grall
2014-11-14 11:42                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-14 11:48                         ` Julien Grall
2014-11-14 12:01                           ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-03  9:20 ` [PATCH ARM v8 3/4] mini-os: arm: build system Thomas Leonard
2014-10-21 11:44   ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-21 21:50     ` Samuel Thibault
2014-10-22  9:01       ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-22  9:59         ` Samuel Thibault
2014-10-26  9:46       ` Thomas Leonard
2014-10-26  9:55         ` Samuel Thibault
2014-10-26 10:25           ` Thomas Leonard
2014-11-17 11:42             ` Thomas Leonard
2014-11-17 11:45               ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-17 11:47               ` Andrew Cooper
2014-11-17 11:47               ` Samuel Thibault
2014-10-03  9:20 ` [PATCH ARM v8 4/4] mini-os: arm: show registers, stack and exception vector on fault Thomas Leonard

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