From: Ed White <edmund.h.white@intel.com>
To: "Lengyel, Tamas" <tlengyel@novetta.com>
Cc: Ravi Sahita <ravi.sahita@intel.com>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>,
Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
Daniel De Graaf <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/12] x86/altp2m: add remaining support routines.
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:10:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <558C8A5F.3020308@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD33N+69oJJrAd8u2eZMTJQ1euaoDJMpXABd5fhjvu5eS9byNA@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/25/2015 03:45 PM, Lengyel, Tamas wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ed White <edmund.h.white@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On 06/25/2015 11:23 AM, Lengyel, Tamas wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ed White <edmund.h.white@intel.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/25/2015 06:40 AM, Razvan Cojocaru wrote:
>>>>> On 06/25/2015 03:44 PM, Lengyel, Tamas wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Ed White <edmund.h.white@intel.com
>>>>>> <mailto:edmund.h.white@intel.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 09:15 AM, Lengyel, Tamas wrote:
>>>>>> >> +bool_t p2m_set_altp2m_mem_access(struct domain *d, uint16_t
>> idx,
>>>>>> >> + unsigned long pfn,
>>>> xenmem_access_t
>>>>>> >> access)
>>>>>> >> +{
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > This function IMHO should be merged with p2m_set_mem_access and
>>>> should be
>>>>>> > triggerable with the same memop (XENMEM_access_op) hypercall
>>>> instead of
>>>>>> > introducing a new hvmop one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should vote on this. My view is that it makes
>>>>>> XENMEM_access_op
>>>>>> too complicated to use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The two functions are not very long and share enough code that it
>> would
>>>>>> justify merging. The only big change added is the copy from host->alt
>>>>>> when the entry doesn't exists in alt, and that itself is pretty self
>>>>>> contained. Let's see if we can get a third opinion on it..
>>>>>
>>>>> At first sight (I admit I'm rather late in the game and haven't had a
>>>>> chance to follow the series closely from the beginning), the two
>>>>> functions do seem to be mergeable (or at least the common code factored
>>>>> out in static helper functions).
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if Ed's concern is that the libxc API would look unnatural if
>>>>> xc_set_mem_access() is used for both purposes, as far as I can tell the
>>>>> only difference could be a non-zero last altp2m parameter, so I agree
>>>>> with you that the less functions doing almost the same thing the better
>>>>> (I have been guilty of this in the past too, for example with my
>>>>> xc_enable_introspection() function ;) ).
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'd say, yes, if possible merge them.
>>>>
>>>> So here are my reasons why I don't think we should merge the hypercalls,
>>>> in more detail:
>>>>
>>>> Although the two hypercalls are similar, they are not identical. For one
>>>> thing, the existing hypercall can only be used cross-domain whereas the
>>>> altp2m one can be used cross-domain or intra-domain.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair point, the use of rcu_lock_live_remote_domain_by_id in the memaccess
>>> memop handler precludes it working for the intra-domain case. However,
>> now
>>> that we have a valid use-case for it working when a domain applies
>>> restrictions on itself, it would be fine to change that to
>>> rcu_lock_domain_by_any_id. It has been just used as a sanity check. The
>>> code you are using in hvm.c could be abstracted as
>> p2m_altp2m_sanity_check:
>>> "!is_hvm_domain(d) || !hvm_altp2m_supported() || !d->arch.altp2m_active"
>>> and ran when the altp2m field is non-zero to catch buggy tools.
>>
>> Whether or not it's possible to merge the two isn't in dispute. The
>> question is which path results in the easiest to understand and
>> maintain outcome for users of the hypercalls and maintainers of
>> the implementation.
>
>
> If it turns out to be that merging the two is too big of a hassle, I would
> agree with Razvan, some code-deduplication would be fine instead of a
> complete merger. I still think it would be cleaner.
>
>
>> Having said that, I don't think your check
>> catches an attempt to place an intra-domain restriction on the
>> host p2m with altp2m active.
>>
>
> The check above I copied from the existing code you do your hvm op. Do you
> explicitly check for that conditions somewhere else? Why not append it you
> need to restrict that condition?
>
The existing altp2m HVM op can't operate on the host p2m, so I don't
need a check, which I think reinforces the point I'm trying to make:
the code in hvm.c will get spaghetti-like if we go down this route.
>>
>>>
>>>> Also, the existing
>>>> hypercall can be used to modify a range of pages and the new one can
>> only
>>>> modify a single page, and that is intentional.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Please elaborate on this.
>>
>> In order to keep the p2m's coherent and respect the primacy of the host
>> p2m, changes that occur in the host p2m can cause changes in altp2m's to
>> be lost. At the moment there is not even any notification that has
>> occurred, although that's something I'm working on. The minimum
>> *guaranteed* granularity of that type of altp2m invalidation is
>> an entire altp2m. The more pages you change in an altp2m, the more
>> chance there is of a collision causing an invalidation, so for this
>> version of altp2m we encourage as few changes as possible by requiring
>> a separate hypercall for each page modification.
>>
>
>> Ed
>>
>
> OK, but we could check for the condition where npages>1 and an altp2m is
> specified to return -EOPNOTSUPP. It could be documented in the exposed part
> of the API that with altp2m this is a restriction.
>
See above.
Ed
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-25 23:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-22 18:56 [PATCH v2 00/12] Alternate p2m: support multiple copies of host p2m Ed White
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] VMX: VMFUNC and #VE definitions and detection Ed White
2015-06-24 8:45 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] VMX: implement suppress #VE Ed White
2015-06-24 9:35 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-29 14:20 ` George Dunlap
2015-06-29 14:31 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-29 15:03 ` George Dunlap
2015-06-29 16:21 ` Sahita, Ravi
2015-06-29 16:21 ` Ed White
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] x86/HVM: Hardware alternate p2m support detection Ed White
2015-06-24 9:44 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 10:07 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] x86/altp2m: basic data structures and support routines Ed White
2015-06-24 10:06 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 10:23 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24 17:20 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 10:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 11:14 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-26 21:17 ` Ed White
2015-06-27 19:25 ` Ed White
2015-06-29 13:00 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-29 16:23 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 14:44 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] VMX/altp2m: add code to support EPTP switching and #VE Ed White
2015-06-24 11:59 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 17:31 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 17:40 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] VMX: add VMFUNC leaf 0 (EPTP switching) to emulator Ed White
2015-06-24 12:47 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 20:29 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 8:26 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24 14:26 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] x86/altp2m: add control of suppress_ve Ed White
2015-06-24 13:05 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 14:38 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24 17:53 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 8:12 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-25 16:36 ` Ed White
2015-06-26 6:04 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-26 16:27 ` Ed White
2015-07-06 17:12 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-06 17:35 ` Ed White
2015-07-06 18:29 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-06 18:43 ` Ed White
2015-07-07 10:10 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-07 16:24 ` Ed White
2015-07-07 17:33 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-07 17:38 ` Sahita, Ravi
2015-07-08 7:24 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08 10:12 ` Tim Deegan
2015-07-08 12:51 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-08 7:23 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-07 8:04 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] x86/altp2m: alternate p2m memory events Ed White
2015-06-24 13:09 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 16:01 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-24 18:02 ` Ed White
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] x86/altp2m: add remaining support routines Ed White
2015-06-23 18:15 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-23 18:52 ` Ed White
2015-06-23 19:35 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-24 13:46 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 17:47 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 18:19 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-26 16:30 ` Ed White
2015-06-29 13:03 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-29 16:24 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 16:15 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-24 18:06 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 8:52 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25 16:27 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 12:44 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-25 13:40 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2015-06-25 16:48 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 17:39 ` Sahita, Ravi
2015-06-25 18:22 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2015-06-25 18:23 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-25 20:46 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 22:45 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-25 23:10 ` Ed White [this message]
2015-06-25 2:44 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-25 16:31 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 17:42 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-25 20:27 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 21:33 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] x86/altp2m: define and implement alternate p2m HVMOP types Ed White
2015-06-24 13:58 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 14:53 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] x86/altp2m: Add altp2mhvm HVM domain parameter Ed White
2015-06-24 14:06 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-24 14:59 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24 17:57 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 18:08 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 8:34 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-25 8:33 ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-22 18:56 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] x86/altp2m: XSM hooks for altp2m HVM ops Ed White
2015-06-26 19:24 ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-06-26 19:35 ` Ed White
2015-06-29 17:52 ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-06-29 17:55 ` Sahita, Ravi
2015-06-23 21:27 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] Alternate p2m: support multiple copies of host p2m Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-23 22:25 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 5:39 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2015-06-24 13:32 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-24 13:37 ` Razvan Cojocaru
2015-06-24 16:43 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 21:34 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-24 22:02 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 22:45 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-24 22:55 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 9:00 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 16:38 ` Ed White
2015-06-25 17:29 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2015-06-25 20:34 ` Ed White
2015-06-24 14:10 ` Andrew Cooper
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