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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: wei.liu2@citrix.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, yunhong.jiang@intel.com,
	eddie.dong@intel.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	rshriram@cs.ubc.ca, ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 COLOPre 19/26] libxc/migration: Specification update for DIRTY_BITMAP records
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 11:16:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5593BE0E.3000003@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55935959.3050606@cn.fujitsu.com>

On 01/07/15 04:07, Yang Hongyang wrote:
>
>
> On 06/30/2015 06:24 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 14:25 +0800, Yang Hongyang wrote:
>>> Used by secondary to send it's dirty bitmap to primary under COLO.
>>
>> This is the backchannel, right?
>
> Right.
>
>>
>> It seems to me that this ought to be described more clearly as a
>> separate stream in the opposite direction, rather than looking like just
>> another record in the forward channel.
>
> Agreed, I'm not sure if having this back channel record is eligible,
> Andy, thoughts?
>
>>
>> Does the back channel not also need some sort of negotiation phase where
>> we check both ends are compatible (i.e. like the forward channel's
>> header). This might be easier than with the forward channel since you
>> might assert that the versions must match exactly for COLO to be
>> possible, that might not be true of some potential future user of the
>> backchannel though.
>
> The negotiation record for COLO is introduced in the following patch
> on libxl side. But that might be diffrent form what you said here, we
> don't have a version check currently, if the 2 side doesn't match, for
> example one has colo feature enabled and the other end do not, the
> migration will simply fail.

I do think that each backchannel level needs some kind of initial
negotiation to confirm everything is set up and working, but I think the
backchannel should also match the spec for its level, and all contained
in the single spec document.

So for both the libxc and libxl backchannels, I would have thought
something along these lines to be sensible:

Forwards sends a LIBX{C,L}_BACKCHANNEL_INIT, and waits to find a
LIBX{C,L}_BACKCHANNEL_REPLY on the backchannel.  After that, processing
continues as normal, with records arriving on the backchannel when
appropriate.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-01 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-25  6:25 [PATCH v3 COLOPre 00/26] Prerequisite patches for COLO Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 01/26] tools/libxl: rename libxl__domain_suspend to libxl__domain_save Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 15:43   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:32     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 02/26] tools/libxl: move domain suspend code into libxl_dom_suspend.c Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 03/26] tools/libxl: move domain resume " Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 15:44   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 04/26] tools/libxl: move remus code into libxl_remus.c Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 15:48   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:36     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 05/26] tools/libxl: move save/restore code into libxl_dom_save.c Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 15:49   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 06/26] libxl/save: Refactor libxl__domain_suspend_state Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:01   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:43     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30  9:50       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30 10:05         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 07/26] libxc/restore: fix error handle of process_record Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:07   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:45     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-03  3:12       ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 08/26] tools/libxc: support to resume uncooperative HVM guests Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:27   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30 10:08     ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-30 10:59       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 09/26] tools/libxl: introduce enum type libxl_checkpointed_stream Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:30   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30  9:53     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:52       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:05         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:36           ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:43             ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 14:09               ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 10/26] migration/save: pass checkpointed_stream from libxl to libxc Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:33   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 11/26] tools/libxl: introduce a new API libxl__domain_restore() to load qemu state Yang Hongyang
2015-06-29 16:38   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-30 10:04     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:54       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 12/26] tools/libxl: Update libxl_domain_unpause() to support qemu-xen Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:00   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:10     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:38       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:38         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 13/26] tools/libxl: introduce libxl__domain_common_switch_qemu_logdirty() Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 14/26] tools/libxl: export logdirty_init Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:01   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 15/26] tools/libxl: Add back channel to allow migration target send data back Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:07   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:28     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:40       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:46         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 16/26] tools/libx{l, c}: add back channel to libxc Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:10   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:38     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:42       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 11:01         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 11:21           ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 12:07             ` Ian Jackson
2015-07-01 13:56               ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 13:58                 ` Ian Jackson
2015-07-01 14:21               ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:54           ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 14:03             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30 10:17   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:40     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 17/26] tools/libx{l, c}: introduce should_checkpoint callback Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:19   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:43     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:43       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 13:58         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 18/26] tools/libx{l, c}: add postcopy/suspend callback to restore side Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:21   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  2:48     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 19/26] libxc/migration: Specification update for DIRTY_BITMAP records Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:24   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  3:07     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:16       ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-07-01 10:27         ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 10:39           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 11:00             ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-03 14:25               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-03 14:41                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 20/26] libxc/migration: export read_record for common use Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 21/26] tools/libxl: refactor write stream to support back channel Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:28   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  5:33     ` Wen Congyang
2015-07-01 10:45       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 11:09         ` Wen Congyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 22/26] tools/libxl: refactor read " Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:39   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 23/26] docs/libxl: Introduce COLO_CONTEXT to support migration v2 colo streams Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:42   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  3:10     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-01 10:44       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01 14:05         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 24/26] tools/libxl: rename remus device to checkpoint device Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:43   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  3:11     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 25/26] tools/libxl: adjust the indentation Yang Hongyang
2015-06-25  6:25 ` [PATCH v3 COLOPre 26/26] tools/libxl: don't touch remus in checkpoint_device Yang Hongyang
2015-06-30 10:50   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-01  3:11     ` Yang Hongyang

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