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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/22] xen/x86: allow disabling emulated devices for HVM guests
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 11:51:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55940C77.6070805@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55940B3F.8050200@citrix.com>

On 07/01/2015 11:46 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 01/07/15 15:46, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
>> Introduce a new DOMCTL flag that can be used to disable device emulation
>> inside of Xen for HVM guests. The following emulated devices are disabled
>> when the XEN_DOMCTL_CDF_noemu is used: hpet, pmtimer, rtc, ioapic, lapic,
>> pic and pmu. Also all the MMIO handlers are disabled.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
>> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>> Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
>> Cc: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
>> Cc: Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
>> Cc: Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>
>> Cc: Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
>> Cc: Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>
>> Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
> I would be hesitant to have a blanket change like this.
>
> Consider APICV/AVIC.  For performance reasons, we absolutely want HVM
> and PVH to make use of them, as they are substantially more efficient
> using hardware support than evening using plain evtchn hypercalls.
>
> However, the flipside is that we must provide an LAPIC emulation to
> cover the bits which hardware cannot virtualise.
>
> As a random idea, how about having a new hypercall or hvmparam which
> provides a bitmap of permitted emulators?  This would allow far finer
> grain control over what is and isn't available to a domain.

I think we also need to decide on which subsets of emulators we are 
going to support, otherwise test matrix will become pretty big. For 
example, initially we may want to allow all (for what we now call HVM) 
or none (PVH).


-boris

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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-01 14:45 [PATCH v2 00/22] Introduce HVM without dm and new boot ABI Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 01/22] libxc: split x86 HVM setup_guest into smaller logical functions Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 02/22] libxc: unify xc_dom_p2m_{host/guest} Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 03/22] libxc: introduce the notion of a container type Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 04/22] libxc: introduce a domain loader for HVM guest firmware Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 05/22] libxc: make arch_setup_meminit a xc_dom_arch hook Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 06/22] libxc: make arch_setup_boot{init/late} xc_dom_arch hooks Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 07/22] xen/x86: fix arch_set_info_guest for HVM guests Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 08/22] libxc: introduce a xc_dom_arch for hvm-3.0-x86_32 guests Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 09/22] libxl: switch HVM domain building to use xc_dom_* helpers Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 10/22] libxc: remove dead HVM building code Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 11/22] xen/x86: allow disabling emulated devices for HVM guests Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 15:25   ` Paul Durrant
2015-07-01 15:34     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-01 15:39       ` Paul Durrant
2015-07-01 15:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 15:51     ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2015-07-01 16:01       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 16:13         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-07-01 16:48           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 11:49             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-07-02 13:34               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-02  9:06     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-10 18:54       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 12/22] elfnotes: intorduce a new PHYS_ENTRY elfnote Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 10:36   ` David Vrabel
2015-07-03 10:52     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 13/22] lib{xc/xl}: allow creating domains without emulated devices Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 14/22] xen: allow HVM guests to use XENMEM_memory_map Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 15/22] xen/x86: allow HVM guests to use hypercalls to bring up vCPUs Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 16/22] xenconsole: try to attach to PV console if HVM fails Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 17/22] libxc: change the position of the special pages Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 18/22] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_CMDLINE_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 19/22] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_FIRST_FREE_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 20/22] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_MODLIST_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 21/22] libxl: set correct nic type for HVM guests without a device model Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 22/22] lib{xc/xl}: allow the creation of HVM domains with a kernel Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03  1:59 ` [PATCH v2 00/22] Introduce HVM without dm and new boot ABI Yang Hongyang
2015-07-03  7:02   ` Roger Pau Monné

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