From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/22] xen/x86: allow disabling emulated devices for HVM guests
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 17:01:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55940EF7.9080902@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55940C77.6070805@oracle.com>
On 01/07/15 16:51, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
> On 07/01/2015 11:46 AM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 01/07/15 15:46, Roger Pau Monne wrote:
>>> Introduce a new DOMCTL flag that can be used to disable device
>>> emulation
>>> inside of Xen for HVM guests. The following emulated devices are
>>> disabled
>>> when the XEN_DOMCTL_CDF_noemu is used: hpet, pmtimer, rtc, ioapic,
>>> lapic,
>>> pic and pmu. Also all the MMIO handlers are disabled.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com>
>>> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>> Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
>>> Cc: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
>>> Cc: Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
>>> Cc: Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>
>>> Cc: Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>
>>> Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
>> I would be hesitant to have a blanket change like this.
>>
>> Consider APICV/AVIC. For performance reasons, we absolutely want HVM
>> and PVH to make use of them, as they are substantially more efficient
>> using hardware support than evening using plain evtchn hypercalls.
>>
>> However, the flipside is that we must provide an LAPIC emulation to
>> cover the bits which hardware cannot virtualise.
>>
>> As a random idea, how about having a new hypercall or hvmparam which
>> provides a bitmap of permitted emulators? This would allow far finer
>> grain control over what is and isn't available to a domain.
>
> I think we also need to decide on which subsets of emulators we are
> going to support, otherwise test matrix will become pretty big. For
> example, initially we may want to allow all (for what we now call HVM)
> or none (PVH).
Right, but that can currently be enforced with an "if ( arg != 0 && arg
!= ~0 ) return -EOPNOTSUPP;" in the hypercall handler for now.
It still leaves us with the ability to add in LAPIC emulation in the
future by changing the auditing. A blanket "no emulation" boolean is
very much harder to relax in the future.
~Andrew
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-01 14:45 [PATCH v2 00/22] Introduce HVM without dm and new boot ABI Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 01/22] libxc: split x86 HVM setup_guest into smaller logical functions Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 02/22] libxc: unify xc_dom_p2m_{host/guest} Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 03/22] libxc: introduce the notion of a container type Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 04/22] libxc: introduce a domain loader for HVM guest firmware Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 05/22] libxc: make arch_setup_meminit a xc_dom_arch hook Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 06/22] libxc: make arch_setup_boot{init/late} xc_dom_arch hooks Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 07/22] xen/x86: fix arch_set_info_guest for HVM guests Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 08/22] libxc: introduce a xc_dom_arch for hvm-3.0-x86_32 guests Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 09/22] libxl: switch HVM domain building to use xc_dom_* helpers Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 10/22] libxc: remove dead HVM building code Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 11/22] xen/x86: allow disabling emulated devices for HVM guests Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 15:25 ` Paul Durrant
2015-07-01 15:34 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-01 15:39 ` Paul Durrant
2015-07-01 15:46 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 15:51 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-01 16:01 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-07-01 16:13 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-07-01 16:48 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 11:49 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-07-02 13:34 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-02 9:06 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-10 18:54 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 12/22] elfnotes: intorduce a new PHYS_ENTRY elfnote Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 10:36 ` David Vrabel
2015-07-03 10:52 ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 13/22] lib{xc/xl}: allow creating domains without emulated devices Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 14/22] xen: allow HVM guests to use XENMEM_memory_map Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 15/22] xen/x86: allow HVM guests to use hypercalls to bring up vCPUs Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 16/22] xenconsole: try to attach to PV console if HVM fails Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 17/22] libxc: change the position of the special pages Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 18/22] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_CMDLINE_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 19/22] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_FIRST_FREE_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 20/22] libxc/xen: introduce HVM_PARAM_MODLIST_PFN Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 21/22] libxl: set correct nic type for HVM guests without a device model Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-01 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 22/22] lib{xc/xl}: allow the creation of HVM domains with a kernel Roger Pau Monne
2015-07-03 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 00/22] Introduce HVM without dm and new boot ABI Yang Hongyang
2015-07-03 7:02 ` Roger Pau Monné
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