From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, shannon.zhao@linaro.org
Cc: hangaohuai@huawei.com, ian.campbell@citrix.com,
stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, peter.huangpeng@huawei.com,
andrew@fubar.geek.nz, stefano.stabellini@citrix.com,
david.vrabel@citrix.com, zhaoshenglong@huawei.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
parth.dixit@linaro.org, christoffer.dall@linaro.org
Subject: Re: Design doc of adding ACPI support for arm64 on Xen - version 3
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:43:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D2D3F6.1030405@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D2CC5F02000078000D6BC5@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>
Hi Jan,
On 17/08/2015 22:10, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> Julien Grall <julien.grall@citrix.com> 08/17/15 6:27 PM >>>
>> On 17/08/2015 08:33, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 14.08.15 at 16:59, <shannon.zhao@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>> b) Create EFI_MEMORY_DESCRIPTOR table. This will add memory start and
>>>> size information of Dom0. And Dom0 will get the memory information
>>>> through this EFI table.
>>>
>>> To some degree the same applies here: While I see that you have no
>>> legacy vehicle like x86's E820, I also don't see how Dom0 - not being
>>> able to make EFI boot or runtime services calls - would get hold of this
>>> table. And if a non-EFI mechanism is to be used here, using the EFI
>>> data structure would turn out to be just an arbitrary (or convenience)
>>> decision, not something inherently required. Which I think should be
>>> said explicitly if so, rather than leaving the reader guess.
>>
>> It's not an arbitrary decision, when UEFI stub in Linux is using device
>> tree properties to pass the UEFI table to the kernel ([1]).
>>
>> When booting on Xen with ACPI, dom0 will use the non-EFI entry point.
>> The easiest way to pass the memory information to Linux is using the
>> UEFI DT properties.
>
> In which case it is even more arbitrary to use the EFI data structure to
> convey memory information (instead of expressing it in plain DT, which is
> how I blindly assume non-EFI does it). Of course there's the small chance
> that "UEFI DT properties" implies a certain binary format, but it's still odd
> for a non-EFI entry point to assume EFI properties to be there...
Linux is able to boot either on ACPI or DT. When ACPI is used, the EFI
stub (mandatory) will create a small DT in order to pass the command
line and other informations (such as the EFI memory table) to the
kernel. This is because the stub is self-contained and and never use
variable living in the kernel.
In order to know whether you are booting using DT or ACPI, they check if
the DT contains only the /chosen node.
Actually the EFI-stub will always jumped on the non-EFI path.
By passing the minimal DT as suggested on the design doc, we are
avoiding to get a different code path for Xen in the kernel and we are
finally acting as the EFI-stub was a nop for DOM0.
So I don't see how this would be arbitrary...
Regards,
--
Julien Grall
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-18 6:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-14 14:59 Design doc of adding ACPI support for arm64 on Xen - version 3 Shannon Zhao
2015-08-14 15:17 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-17 13:01 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-17 16:10 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-18 3:19 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-18 6:36 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-18 7:23 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-18 16:13 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-14 15:59 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-08-17 15:33 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-17 16:19 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-18 5:10 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-18 6:43 ` Julien Grall [this message]
2015-08-18 7:01 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-18 7:46 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-18 19:01 ` Julien Grall
2015-08-18 3:41 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-18 5:14 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-18 7:35 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-18 8:15 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-18 8:21 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-18 9:11 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-18 9:34 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-08-18 19:00 ` Julien Grall
2015-09-02 11:43 ` Ian Campbell
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