From: Ben Catterall <Ben.Catterall@citrix.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, keir@xen.org,
ian.campbell@citrix.com, george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com,
Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
jbeulich@suse.com, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/4] HVM x86 deprivileged mode: Code for switching into/out of deprivileged mode
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:36:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D45C43.7050700@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D36374.6060805@citrix.com>
On 18/08/15 17:55, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>
>
> On 17/08/15 08:07, Tim Deegan wrote:
>> At 14:53 +0100 on 17 Aug (1439823232), Ben Catterall wrote:
>>> On 12/08/15 14:33, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> On 12/08/15 14:29, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>>> On 11/08/15 19:29, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>> Would switching TR only when we know that we need to enter this
>>>>>> deprivileged mode help?
>>>>> This is an absolute must. It is not safe to use syscall/sysexit
>>>>> without
>>>>> IST in place for NMIs and MCEs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming that it is less expensive than copying the stack.
>>>>> I was referring to the stack overflow issue, and whether it might be
>>>>> sensible to pro-actively which TR.
>>>> Ahem! s/which/switch/
>>>>
>>>> ~Andrew
>>>>
>>> So, have we arrived at a decision for this? Thanks!
>
> Apologies for the delay - I am currently at the Xen Developer Summit.
>
No worries! Hope you're enjoying the summit. :)
>> Seems to have stalled a bit. OK, I propose that:
>> - we use TR/IST to make Xen take interrupts/exceptions at a
>> different SP;
>
> Xen re-enables interrupts in most interrupt handlers, which means that
> they must not have an IST set. If an IST was set, a second interrupt
> would clobber the frame of the first.
>
> However, just adjusting tss->rsp0 and syscall top-of-stack to the
> current rsp when entering depriv mode should be sufficient, and will
> avoid needing to copy the stack.
Got it, thanks!
>
>> - we make that SP be an extension of the main stack, so that things
>> like current() Just Work[tm];
>> - we set this up and tear it down when we enter/leave depriv mode.
>> - someone ought to look at the case where IST handlers copy
>> themselves to the main stack, and see if we need to adjust that too.
>
> They will need adjusting, but just disabling the copy entirely should be
> ok.
ok.
>
>>
>> Any other proposals?
>>
>> I think we can leave the question of TR switching on VMEXIT as a
>> separate issue.
>
> Agreed. It is orthogonal to this problem.
>
> ~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-19 10:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-06 16:45 [RFC 0/4] HVM x86 enhancements to run Xen deprivileged mode operations Ben Catterall
2015-08-06 16:45 ` [RFC 1/4] HVM x86 deprivileged mode: Page allocation helper Ben Catterall
2015-08-06 19:22 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-07 9:57 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-07 13:14 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-10 8:50 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-10 8:52 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-10 8:55 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-10 10:08 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-06 16:45 ` [RFC 2/4] HVM x86 deprivileged mode: Create deprivileged page tables Ben Catterall
2015-08-06 19:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-07 13:19 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-07 15:20 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-06 16:45 ` [RFC 3/4] HVM x86 deprivileged mode: Code for switching into/out of deprivileged mode Ben Catterall
2015-08-06 20:55 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-07 12:51 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-07 13:08 ` David Vrabel
2015-08-07 14:24 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-11 9:45 ` Ian Campbell
2015-08-10 9:49 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-10 10:14 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-11 9:55 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-11 16:51 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-11 17:05 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-11 17:19 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-11 18:29 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-08-12 13:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-12 13:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-17 13:53 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-17 15:07 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-17 15:17 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-18 10:25 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-18 10:26 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-18 14:22 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-18 16:55 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-19 10:36 ` Ben Catterall [this message]
2015-08-12 10:10 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-12 13:22 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-12 13:26 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-20 14:42 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-11 10:35 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-06 16:45 ` [RFC 4/4] HVM x86 deprivileged mode: Trap handlers for " Ben Catterall
2015-08-06 21:24 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-07 12:32 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-07 13:19 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-07 13:26 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-10 10:07 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-11 10:33 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-17 13:59 ` Ben Catterall
2015-08-17 14:58 ` Tim Deegan
2015-08-17 15:14 ` Jan Beulich
2015-08-12 9:50 ` [RFC 0/4] HVM x86 enhancements to run Xen deprivileged mode operations Jan Beulich
2015-08-12 11:27 ` Ben Catterall
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