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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth.xen@gmail.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <JGross@suse.com>,
	Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 for-4.6 0/2] In-tree feature documentation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:48:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55E09ED6.9040706@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E09CF6.8060302@citrix.com>

On 28/08/15 18:40, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 28/08/15 18:16, Lars Kurth wrote:
>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 15:52, Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Andrew Cooper writes ("[RFC v2 for-4.6 0/2] In-tree feature documentation"):
>>>> An issue which Xen has is an uncertain support statement for features.
>>>> Given the success seen with docs/misc/xen-command-line.markdown, and in
>>>> particular keeping it up to date, introduce a similar system for
>>>> features.
>>>>
>>>> Patch 1 introduces a proposed template (and a makefile tweak to include
>>>> the new docs/features subdirectory), while patch 2 is a feature document
>>>> covering the topic of migration.
>>>>
>>>> v2 Adds %Revision and #History table, following feedback from v1.
>>>>
>>>> This is tagged RFC as I expect people to have different views as to what
>>>> is useful to include.  I would particilarly appreciate feedback on the
>>>> template before it starts getting used widely.
>>>>
>>>> Lars: Does this look like a reasonable counterpart to your formal
>>>> support statement document?
>>>>
>>>> Jim: Per your request at the summit for new information, is patch 2
>>>> suitable?
>>> I have read both patches.
>> Me too
>>
>>> I do wonder whether cross-referencing all the "issues" is a good idea.
>>> It seems like it might be a lot of work to keep them in step.
>> There is a risk that these may go stale. I am wondering, whether if we do have features, we can come up with some conventions that allow us to grep for the issues on the list. Just an idea.
>>
>> We could have a unique feature ID in the #basics section. Migration (as in the first line of migration.pandoc) is probably too generic in this example (too many false negatives). But if there was a unique enough feature identifier that can be grep'ed in commit logs, on xen-devel@, ... that may help.
> This feels like over-engineering a solution.  Maintaining a set of
> unique features will be extra burden on the core maintainers, as well as
> a extra burden on submitters to know how to work this brand new system.
>
> I would hope that few supported features have "issues" as identified in
> the migration document.
>
> I expect this section to be far more useful for experimental and tech
> preview features.  In such cases issues are perfectly fine (It is far
> better to have some code people can play with, with a set of known
> restrictions, than to have no code at all), and can serve as a todo list
> before its status can be elevated to supported.

In addition.

I expect that maintainers would have an idea of the documentation which
exists in tree, and refer to it when reviewing new code in the area.  I
certainly will be.

Nowadays, it feels that enough people reviewing new submissions have an
instinct of "changes to command line parameters should patch
docs/misc/xen-command-line.markdown".  This is a very good position as
far as keeping the command line documentation up to date goes, and was
the entire principle behind introducing that document in the first place.

I would hope that after a while, similar instincts would develop for
major modification or addition of new features.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-28 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-25 10:40 [RFC v2 for-4.6 0/2] In-tree feature documentation Andrew Cooper
2015-08-25 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 for-4.6 1/2] docs: Template for feature documents Andrew Cooper
2015-09-01 13:41   ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-01 13:45     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-25 10:40 ` [PATCH v2 for-4.6 2/2] docs: Migration feature document Andrew Cooper
2015-08-27  2:15   ` Jim Fehlig
2015-08-27 10:35     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-27  2:44 ` [RFC v2 for-4.6 0/2] In-tree feature documentation Jim Fehlig
2015-08-27 10:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-27 14:52 ` Ian Jackson
2015-08-27 15:39   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-27 17:58     ` Ian Jackson
2015-08-27 18:16       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-28 17:16   ` Lars Kurth
2015-08-28 17:40     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-28 17:48       ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-08-28 17:51       ` Lars Kurth
2015-08-28 18:18         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-08-28 18:52           ` Lars Kurth
2015-08-28 19:06             ` Andrew Cooper

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