From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xen.org, Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
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Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/13] tools/libxl: Add 'vtsc_khz' option to set guest TSC rate
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:31:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <560A6870.5090907@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1443522518.16718.36.camel@citrix.com>
On 29/09/15 11:28, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 11:24 +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 29/09/15 11:13, Haozhong Zhang wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:04:14AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 15:13 +0800, Haozhong Zhang wrote:
>>>>> This patch adds an option 'vtsc_khz' to allow users to set vcpu's
>>>>> TSC
>>>>> rate in KHz. In the case that tsc_mode = 'default', the default
>>>>> value of
>>>>> 'vtsc_khz' option is the host TSC rate which is used when
>>>>> 'vtsc_khz'
>>>>> option is set to 0 or does not appear in the configuration. In all
>>>>> other
>>>>> cases of tsc_mode, 'vtsc_khz' option is just ignored.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another purpose of adding this option is to keep vcpu's TSC rate
>>>>> across
>>>>> guest reboot. In existing code, a new domain is created from the
>>>>> configuration of the previous domain which was just rebooted.
>>>>> vcpu's TSC
>>>>> rate is not stored in the configuration and the host TSC rate is
>>>>> the
>>>>> used as vcpu's TSC rate. This works fine unless the previous domain
>>>>> was
>>>>> migrated from another host machine with a different host TSC rate
>>>>> than
>>>>> the current one.
>>>> I understand why this is necessary over a migration, but why is it
>>>> important to be able to retain the TSC rate across a reboot? What is
>>>> the
>>>> usecase there?
>>>>
>>> No usecase so far. Is 'making a virtual machine more like a physical
>>> machine' reasonable here? (I suppose a physical machine retains TSC
>>> rate across reboot)
>> There are situations such as altering firmware settings which can cause
>> the TSC rate to differ across reboot. I don't see any reason to try and
>> maintain it across VM reboots.
> Right. If it happens to come for free as a side effect of making it work
> for migration then fine.
>
> But it seems to me that tsc rate could/should be in the hypervisors save
> blob and require no interaction with the toolstack once it is latched when
> the domain is built.
There are a lot of blobs which fall into this category. Others are
cpuid policy and guest-MSRs. I have a longterm plan to fix them, which
is under very slow progress.
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-29 10:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-28 7:13 [PATCH 00/13] Add VMX TSC scaling support Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 01/13] x86/time.c: Use system time to calculate elapsed_nsec in tsc_get_info() Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 6:51 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 13:41 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 14:00 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 15:11 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 16:09 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 16:19 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 16:31 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 16:51 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 18:59 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 14:39 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 15:37 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 16:39 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 16:44 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-09 14:35 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-09 14:43 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-09 15:56 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-14 2:45 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-14 9:40 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-14 10:00 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-14 10:20 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-14 10:24 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 02/13] x86/time.c: Get the correct guest TSC rate " Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 03/13] x86/hvm: Collect information of TSC scaling ratio Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 12:53 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 14:40 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 14:51 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 15:57 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 04/13] x86/hvm: Setup " Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 13:13 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 15:55 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 16:05 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 16:39 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-23 7:44 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-23 7:59 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-23 8:18 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-23 8:31 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-23 8:40 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-23 9:18 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 05/13] x86/hvm: Replace architecture TSC scaling by a common function Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 13:52 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-23 0:49 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 06/13] x86/hvm: Scale host TSC when setting/getting guest TSC Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 14:17 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-22 15:44 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-22 16:23 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 20:16 ` Aravind Gopalakrishnan
2015-10-28 1:51 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-11-09 7:43 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-11-12 13:50 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-22 16:03 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 1:54 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 8:15 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-27 8:25 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 8:44 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 13:10 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-27 13:55 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-27 16:13 ` haozhong.zhang
2015-10-27 16:13 ` haozhong.zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 07/13] x86/hvm: Move saving/loading vcpu's TSC to common code Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 14:54 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 08/13] x86/hvm: Detect TSC scaling through hvm_funcs in tsc_set_info() Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 15:01 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 09/13] x86/time.c: Scale host TSC in pvclock properly Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 16:36 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-09-29 0:19 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 15:50 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-22 16:44 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 19:15 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 10/13] vmx: Detect and initialize VMX RDTSC(P) scaling Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 13:19 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-27 16:17 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 11/13] vmx: Use scaled host TSC to calculate TSC offset Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 15:55 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-22 17:12 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-22 19:19 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-10-23 0:52 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 13:29 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-27 16:21 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 12/13] vmx: Add a call-back to apply TSC scaling ratio to hardware Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 16:02 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-09-29 1:07 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 9:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 10:02 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 10:25 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 13:59 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-10-27 13:33 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-28 2:41 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 7:13 ` [PATCH 13/13] tools/libxl: Add 'vtsc_khz' option to set guest TSC rate Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 11:47 ` Julien Grall
2015-09-28 12:11 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 14:19 ` Wei Liu
2015-09-29 0:40 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 9:20 ` Wei Liu
2015-09-29 9:50 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 10:24 ` Julien Grall
2015-09-29 10:07 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-29 10:33 ` Wei Liu
2015-09-29 12:57 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 10:04 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-29 10:13 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 10:24 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 10:28 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-29 10:31 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-09-29 13:53 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 13:56 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 14:01 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-29 14:37 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-29 15:16 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-09-28 10:51 ` [PATCH 00/13] Add VMX TSC scaling support Andrew Cooper
2015-09-28 13:48 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-11-22 17:54 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-11-23 15:37 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-11-24 13:05 ` Haozhong Zhang
2015-11-24 14:19 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-11-24 14:25 ` Haozhong Zhang
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