From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
Meng Xu <mengxu@cis.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] xen: sched: make locking for {insert, remove}_vcpu consistent
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:00:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <560BA4B9.4060708@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1443562845.3276.134.camel@citrix.com>
On 29/09/15 22:40, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-09-29 at 18:31 +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 29/09/15 17:55, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>> The insert_vcpu() scheduler hook is called with an
>>> inconsistent locking strategy. In fact, it is sometimes
>>> invoked while holding the runqueue lock and sometimes
>>> when that is not the case.
>>>
>>> In other words, some call sites seems to imply that
>>> locking should be handled in the callers, in schedule.c
>>> --e.g., in schedule_cpu_switch(), which acquires the
>>> runqueue lock before calling the hook; others that
>>> specific schedulers should be responsible for locking
>>> themselves --e.g., in sched_move_domain(), which does
>>> not acquire any lock for calling the hook.
>>>
>>> The right thing to do seems to always defer locking to
>>> the specific schedulers, as it's them that know what, how
>>> and when it is best to lock (as in: runqueue locks, vs.
>>> private scheduler locks, vs. both, etc.)
>>>
>>> This patch, therefore:
>>> - removes any locking around insert_vcpu() from
>>> generic code (schedule.c);
>>> - add the _proper_ locking in the hook implementations,
>>> depending on the scheduler (for instance, credit2
>>> does that already, credit1 and RTDS need to grab
>>> the runqueue lock while manipulating runqueues).
>>>
>>> In case of credit1, remove_vcpu() handling needs some
>>> fixing remove_vcpu() too, i.e.:
>>> - it manipulates runqueues, so the runqueue lock must
>>> be acquired;
>>> - *_lock_irq() is enough, there is no need to do
>>> _irqsave()
>> Nothing in any of generic scheduling code should need interrupts
>> disabled at all.
>>
> That's a really, really, really interesting point.
>
> I think I see what you mean. However, currently, pretty much **all**
> scheduling related locks are acquired via _irq or _irqsave primitives,
> and that is true for schedule.c and for all the sched_*.c files.
>
>> One of the problem-areas identified by Jenny during the ticketlock
>> performance work was that the SCHEDULE_SOFTIRQ was a large consumer
>> of
>> time with interrupts disabled.
>>
> Right, and I am very much up for investigating whether this can
> improve. However, this seems to me the topic for a different series.
>
>> Is the use of _lock_irq() here to cover another issue expecting
>> interrupts to be disabled, or could it be replaced with a plain
>> spin_lock()?
>>
> As said, it is probably the case that spin_lock() would be ok, here as
> well as elsewhere. This is being done like this in this patch for
> consistency, as that is what happens **everywhere** else in scheduling
> code. In fact, I haven't tried, but it may well be the case that,
> converting only one (or a subset) of locks to non _irq* variants, we'd
> make check_lock() complain.
>
> So, can we just allow this patch to follow suit, and then overhaul and
> change/fix (if it reveals feasible) all locking at once, in a dedicated
> series? This seems the best approach to me...
This seems reasonable to me. I just wanted to check that you were not
using the _irq() variants "just because". I did suspect that the _irq()
variants were in use because everything else uses _irq()/_irqsave().
This change doesn't make the matter worse, and fixing that can of worms
is probably going to be a whole series in itself, therefore no further
objections from me.
~Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-30 9:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-29 16:55 [PATCH 0/9] xen: sched: improve (a lot! :-D) Credit2 runqueue handling Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 1/9] xen: sched: fix an 'off by one \t' in credit2 debug dump Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 5:22 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-08 14:09 ` George Dunlap
2015-09-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 2/9] xen: sched: improve scope and placement of credit2 boot parameters Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 5:23 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01 7:51 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01 8:17 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 3/9] xen: sched: make locking for {insert, remove}_vcpu consistent Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 17:31 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 21:40 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 21:56 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-30 9:00 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-10-08 14:58 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-08 15:20 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-08 16:46 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-08 17:23 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-08 20:44 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-12 9:44 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-08 20:39 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-09 13:05 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 16:56 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 8:03 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01 11:59 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 4/9] xen: sched: add .init_pdata hook to the scheduler interface Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 5:21 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01 6:33 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 7:43 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01 9:32 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-01 9:40 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 8:17 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01 9:26 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 10:12 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01 10:35 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 10:47 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 5/9] xen: sched: make implementing .alloc_pdata optional Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 5:28 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01 6:35 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 7:49 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01 8:13 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 6/9] xen: sched: implement .init_pdata in all schedulers Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 7/9] xen: sched: fix per-socket runqueue creation in credit2 Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 8/9] xen: sched: allow for choosing credit2 runqueues configuration at boot Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 5:48 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01 7:23 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 7:46 ` Juergen Gross
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 9/9] xen: sched: per-core runqueues as default in credit2 Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 5:48 ` Juergen Gross
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