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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <JGross@suse.com>,
	keir@xen.org, george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com,
	andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, dario.faggioli@citrix.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] xen: use masking operation instead of test_bit for VPF bits
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:45:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56127F04.4060300@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5612990402000078000A8230@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

On 05/10/15 14:36, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 05.10.15 at 15:18, <george.dunlap@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 02/10/15 05:40, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> Use a bit mask for testing of a set bit instead of test_bit in case no
>>> atomic operation is needed, as this will lead to smaller and more
>>> effective code.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
>>
>> I'm a bit confused here -- exactly when is an atomic operation needed or
>> not needed?  Isn't it the case that we always need to do an atomic read
>> if we ever do an atomic write without a lock held?
> 
> First of all - what is an atomic read from CPU perspective other than
> just a read? Since we talk about individual bits here, we don't care
> about the granularity the compiler may convert the read to, and even
> if the compiler chose to do multiple reads the result would still be
> correct, as only one of those reads can possibly have read the bit
> in question.
> 
> And then, the old mechanism was in no way "atomic", all it added was
> a kind of compiler barrier (due to the cast to volatile). Yet in none of
> the cases changed I was able to spot a need for such a barrier.

OK, so the key thing about test_bit isn't that it's atomic, so much that
it's an implicit memory barrier.  So as long as you're not doing a
lockless careful-ordering sort of thing, then a simple memory read
should be fine.  Is that correct?

In that case, it's likely that the patch is correct (though I'll take a
closer look just to be sure).

 -George

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-05 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-02  4:40 [PATCH 0/5] use mask operations instead of test_bit() Juergen Gross
2015-10-02  4:40 ` [PATCH 1/5] xen: use masking operation instead of test_bit for RTDS bits Juergen Gross
2015-10-02 10:21   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-05 13:30   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02  4:40 ` [PATCH 2/5] xen: use masking operation instead of test_bit for CSFLAG bits Juergen Gross
2015-10-02 10:45   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-05 13:30   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02  4:40 ` [PATCH 3/5] xen: use masking operation instead of test_bit for VGCF bits Juergen Gross
2015-10-02  4:40 ` [PATCH 4/5] xen: use masking operation instead of test_bit for VPF bits Juergen Gross
2015-10-05 13:18   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-05 13:36     ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-05 13:45       ` George Dunlap [this message]
2015-10-05 14:05         ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-05 14:31           ` George Dunlap
2015-10-05 13:39     ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-05 13:24   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-05 13:40     ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-02  4:40 ` [PATCH 5/5] xen: use masking operation instead of test_bit for MCSF bits Juergen Gross
2015-10-02  9:03 ` [PATCH 0/5] use mask operations instead of test_bit() Dario Faggioli
2015-10-02  9:10   ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-02  9:33     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-02  9:44 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-02  9:47 ` Andrew Cooper

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