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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: RFC: change to 6 months release cycle
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 15:51:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56128059.5000906@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151005125545.GE29124@zion.uk.xensource.com>

On 10/05/2015 02:55 PM, Wei Liu wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 12:55:00PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 13:51 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> On 10/05/2015 01:44 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 12:23 +0100, Wei Liu wrote:
>>>>> we can pick a stable tree every X releases etc etc.
>>>>
>>>> I think switching to an LTS style model, i.e. only supporting 1/N for
>>>> longer than it takes to release the next major version might be
>>>> interesting
>>>> to consider. I'm thinking e.g. of N=4 with a 6 month cycle.
>>>>
>>>> I think some of our downstreams (i.e. distros) would like this, since
>>>> it
>>>> gives them releases which are supported for a length of time more like
>>>> their own release cycles.
>>>
>>> And again there will be a rush to get a feature in at the end of each
>>> Nth cycle, as it will end up in the long-term stable version...
>>
>> I actually think there is plenty of stuff which people just want in _some_
>> release.
>>
>
> I concur. Having a feature in some release, albeit not the stable one,
> helps. For example, downstream developer will have a strong
> justification for backporting stuff.

How often did we have real feature backports in the past?

Won't the increasing number of feature backport requests nullify the
purpose of the short-time support of some releases: decrease the load
of the stable maintainers?

> As for "rush to get a feature at the end of each Nth cycle", it wouldn't
> put us in a worse situation than we already have because N==1 nowadays.

Sure. But reasoning "6 month release cycle is better because no feature
needs to rush in" and "doing a stable release every 2 years with a
possible rush at the end won't make it worse than today" seems to be a
little bit strange to me.

I don't fight against the 6 months release cycle. I just wanted to point
out some IMO wrong justification for it.


Juergen

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-05 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-02 17:43 RFC: change to 6 months release cycle Wei Liu
2015-10-02 17:52 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-02 18:21   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-05  9:45     ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-05 10:01       ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-06 15:22       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-02 18:17 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-03  1:04 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-05  9:55 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-05 10:19   ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 10:29 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-05 10:42   ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 11:04 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-05 11:23   ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 11:37     ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-05 12:52       ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 13:31         ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-05 13:51           ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 14:07             ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-05 14:50               ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 15:08                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-05 11:44     ` Steven Haigh
2015-10-05 13:05       ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 13:05       ` George Dunlap
2015-10-05 13:21         ` Steven Haigh
2015-10-05 16:22           ` Wei Liu
2015-10-06 13:03             ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-06 13:12               ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 11:44     ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-05 11:51       ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-05 11:55         ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-05 12:55           ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 13:51             ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2015-10-05 14:30               ` Wei Liu
2015-10-05 11:51       ` Steven Haigh

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