From: Ross Lagerwall <ross.lagerwall@citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, msw@amazon.com,
aliguori@amazon.com, amesserl@rackspace.com,
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josh.kearney@rackspace.com, jinsong.liu@alibaba-inc.com,
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liuyingdong@huawei.com, john.liuqiming@huawei.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/5] xsplice: Design document.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 13:57:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5613C553.2040707@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1442437276-2620-2-git-send-email-konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
On 09/16/2015 10:01 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> +### xSplice interdependencies
> +
> +xSplice patches interdependencies are tricky.
> +
> +There are the ways this can be addressed:
> + * A single large patch that subsumes and replaces all previous ones.
> + Over the life-time of patching the hypervisor this large patch
> + grows to accumulate all the code changes.
> + * Hotpatch stack - where an mechanism exists that loads the hotpatches
> + in the same order they were built in. We would need an build-id
> + of the hypevisor to make sure the hot-patches are build against the
> + correct build.
> + * Payload containing the old code to check against that. That allows
> + the hotpatches to be loaded indepedently (if they don't overlap) - or
> + if the old code also containst previously patched code - even if they
> + overlap.
> +
> +The disadvantage of the first large patch is that it can grow over
> +time and not provide an bisection mechanism to identify faulty patches.
> +
> +The hot-patch stack puts stricts requirements on the order of the patches
> +being loaded and requires an hypervisor build-id to match against.
> +
> +The old code allows much more flexibility and an additional guard,
> +but is more complex to implement.
> +
If the single large patch mechanism is used, a new REPLACE action is
needed to atomically replace one patch with another to prevent a window
where the hypervisor is unpatched. kpatch has a "replace" command for
this purpose. This may be useful even for the other mechanisms listed above.
From what I can tell:
* kSplice uses old code checking (method [3] above), although in
practice the userspace tools implement dependency logic to enforce a
linear stack of patches.
* kPatch and kGraft recommend using the single large patch mechanism
although there's nothing preventing two independent patches from being
loaded.
--
Ross Lagerwall
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-06 12:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-16 21:01 [PATCH v1] xSplice initial foundation patches Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-16 21:01 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] xsplice: Design document Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-05 10:02 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-05 10:28 ` Ross Lagerwall
2015-10-12 11:44 ` xsplice-build prototype (was [PATCH v1 1/5] xsplice: Design document.) Ross Lagerwall
2015-10-12 13:06 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-12 14:20 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-06 12:57 ` Ross Lagerwall [this message]
2015-10-27 8:08 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] xsplice: Design document Martin Pohlack
2015-10-27 8:45 ` Ross Lagerwall
2015-10-06 15:26 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-26 12:01 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-10-26 12:10 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-26 13:21 ` Ross Lagerwall
2015-10-26 13:55 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-16 21:01 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] xen/xsplice: Hypervisor implementation of XEN_XSPLICE_op Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-02 15:06 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-16 21:01 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] libxc: Implementation of XEN_XSPLICE_op in libxc Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-16 21:01 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] xen-xsplice: Tool to manipulate xsplice payloads Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-16 21:01 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] xsplice: Use ld-embedded build-ids Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-16 21:41 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-16 21:59 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-16 22:31 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-17 6:41 ` Martin Pohlack
2015-09-17 9:35 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-17 18:45 ` Is: Make XENVER_* use XSM, seperate the different ops in smaller security domains. Was:Re: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-18 11:40 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-22 13:22 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-22 13:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-22 13:45 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-09-22 16:28 ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-09-22 16:28 ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-09-25 20:18 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-02 15:13 ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-02 14:48 ` [PATCH v1] xSplice initial foundation patches Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-09 12:46 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
[not found] <560E66D902000078000DA088@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>
2015-10-02 13:36 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] xsplice: Design document Jan Beulich
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