From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
Chunyan Liu <cyliu@suse.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 6/7] xl: add usb-assignable-list command
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:21:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56151C3E.4000504@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56150A6C.2080101@suse.com>
On 07/10/15 13:05, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 10/07/2015 01:55 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 13:49 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> On 10/07/2015 01:39 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 13:25 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>>> The "usb-assignable-list" that Chunyan has submitted will give you
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> list of all dom0 USB devices that have not yet been assigned to a
>>>>>> guest.
>>>>>> It should be basically equivalent to "lsusb", except that it
>>>>>> filters
>>>>>> out devices which have already been assigned to VMs.
>>>>
>>>> Right, that does sound like useful enough functionality to justify not
>>>> just
>>>> using lsusb.
>>>>
>>>>>> In the e-mail you respond to, I was suggesting that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # xl usb-list --all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would show you usb devices attached to every VM, and also USB
>>>>>> devices
>>>>>> attached to no VM, and that
>>>>
>>>> And would "xl usb-list" list all domain attached to every VM but not
>>>> the
>>>> unattached ones?
>>>>
>>>>>> # xl usb-list --host
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would show you only host usb devices not attached to any VM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's the second bit if functionality which Juergen is keen
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> available in some form or other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy with this proposal too.
>>>>
>>>> Is the distinction between --host and --all important to you? Assuming
>>>> unassigned devices are clearly indicated in the --all output (as they
>>>> should be).
>>>
>>> Depends on how the output would look like.
>>>
>>> In case it either isn't containing VMs without any attached USB device
>>> or the unassigned devices are listed at the end this would be okay. I
>>> just wouldn't want to have to scroll a lot in case of a host with 1000
>>> domains.
>>
>> Makes sense.
>>
>>> BTW: In case you don't have the --host option it would be nice to omit
>>> --all as well and just assume --all when no domain was specified (like
>>> xl list).
>>
>> I think "xl usb-list" should list the devices attached to all domains,
>> for
>> sure. I'm ambivalent about whether it also lists unattached devices (in
>> which case --all is unnecessary) or if --all is required to get those.
>
> I'd go for nuking the --all option. I suppose xl usb-list without
> specifying a domain will nearly always be used to see the unassigned
> devices and not "uuh, to which domain did I assign device x?".
I don't know -- if you've assigned a device to one particular domain,
then it seems pretty likely that at some point in the future you might
want to say, "Wait, what devices do I have assigned where again?"
I think
* people will expect "xl usb-list" to show all VMs but *not* all
unassigned host devices
* In this sort of a case, doing what people expect is probably more
important than doing what we think is probably more convenient for them.
I'd go for "--all" and "--host", but I think it's not terribly important.
Chunyan, do you have any input / opinions?
-George
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-07 13:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-25 2:11 [PATCH V7 0/7] xen pvusb toolstack work Chunyan Liu
2015-09-25 2:11 ` [PATCH V7 1/7] libxl: export some functions for pvusb use Chunyan Liu
2015-09-25 2:11 ` [PATCH V7 2/7] libxl_read_file_contents: add new entry to read sysfs file Chunyan Liu
2015-09-30 11:22 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02 13:25 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-25 2:11 ` [PATCH V7 3/7] libxl: add pvusb API Chunyan Liu
2015-09-30 17:55 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02 13:31 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 8:12 ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-10-12 7:19 ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-10-12 13:46 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-13 1:46 ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-10-13 13:15 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-13 13:19 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-13 13:30 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-14 2:29 ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-10-08 14:41 ` Ian Jackson
2015-10-08 14:54 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-08 15:16 ` Ian Jackson
2015-10-12 7:00 ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-09-25 2:11 ` [PATCH V7 4/7] libxl: add libxl_device_usb_assignable_list API Chunyan Liu
2015-10-01 11:32 ` George Dunlap
2015-09-25 2:11 ` [PATCH V7 5/7] xl: add pvusb commands Chunyan Liu
2015-10-01 17:02 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02 13:35 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-02 15:17 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02 15:29 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 7:15 ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-09-25 2:11 ` [PATCH V7 6/7] xl: add usb-assignable-list command Chunyan Liu
2015-10-06 16:55 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 8:40 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 9:55 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 10:08 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 10:10 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 10:15 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 10:35 ` Christiane Groß
2015-10-07 11:09 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 11:20 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 11:25 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 11:32 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 11:37 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 11:39 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 11:43 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 11:39 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 11:49 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 11:55 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 12:05 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 12:51 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 13:21 ` George Dunlap [this message]
2015-10-07 13:54 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 14:05 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 14:26 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 14:35 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 14:47 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 15:03 ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 15:13 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 14:10 ` George Dunlap
2015-09-25 2:11 ` [PATCH V7 7/7] domcreate: support pvusb in configuration file Chunyan Liu
2015-10-07 15:06 ` George Dunlap
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