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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Chunyan Liu <cyliu@suse.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 6/7] xl: add usb-assignable-list command
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:21:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56151C3E.4000504@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56150A6C.2080101@suse.com>

On 07/10/15 13:05, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 10/07/2015 01:55 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 13:49 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>> On 10/07/2015 01:39 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 13:25 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>>> The "usb-assignable-list" that Chunyan has submitted will give you
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> list of all dom0 USB devices that have not yet been assigned to a
>>>>>> guest.
>>>>>>     It should be basically equivalent to "lsusb", except that it
>>>>>> filters
>>>>>> out devices which have already been assigned to VMs.
>>>>
>>>> Right, that does sound like useful enough functionality to justify not
>>>> just
>>>> using lsusb.
>>>>
>>>>>> In the e-mail you respond to, I was suggesting that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # xl usb-list --all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would show you usb devices attached to every VM, and also USB
>>>>>> devices
>>>>>> attached to no VM, and that
>>>>
>>>> And would "xl usb-list" list all domain attached to every VM but not
>>>> the
>>>> unattached ones?
>>>>
>>>>>> # xl usb-list --host
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would show you only host usb devices not attached to any VM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's the second bit if functionality which Juergen is keen
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> available in some form or other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy with this proposal too.
>>>>
>>>> Is the distinction between --host and --all important to you? Assuming
>>>> unassigned devices are clearly indicated in the --all output (as they
>>>> should be).
>>>
>>> Depends on how the output would look like.
>>>
>>> In case it either isn't containing VMs without any attached USB device
>>> or the unassigned devices are listed at the end this would be okay. I
>>> just wouldn't want to have to scroll a lot in case of a host with 1000
>>> domains.
>>
>> Makes sense.
>>
>>> BTW: In case you don't have the --host option it would be nice to omit
>>> --all as well and just assume --all when no domain was specified (like
>>> xl list).
>>
>> I think "xl usb-list" should list the devices attached to all domains,
>> for
>> sure. I'm ambivalent about whether it also lists unattached devices (in
>> which case --all is unnecessary) or if --all is required to get those.
> 
> I'd go for nuking the --all option. I suppose xl usb-list without
> specifying a domain will nearly always be used to see the unassigned
> devices and not "uuh, to which domain did I assign device x?".

I don't know -- if you've assigned a device to one particular domain,
then it seems pretty likely that at some point in the future you might
want to say, "Wait, what devices do I have assigned where again?"

I think
* people will expect "xl usb-list" to show all VMs but *not* all
unassigned host devices
* In this sort of a case, doing what people expect is probably more
important than doing what we think is probably more convenient for them.

I'd go for "--all" and "--host", but I think it's not terribly important.

Chunyan, do you have any input / opinions?

 -George

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-07 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-25  2:11 [PATCH V7 0/7] xen pvusb toolstack work Chunyan Liu
2015-09-25  2:11 ` [PATCH V7 1/7] libxl: export some functions for pvusb use Chunyan Liu
2015-09-25  2:11 ` [PATCH V7 2/7] libxl_read_file_contents: add new entry to read sysfs file Chunyan Liu
2015-09-30 11:22   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02 13:25   ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-25  2:11 ` [PATCH V7 3/7] libxl: add pvusb API Chunyan Liu
2015-09-30 17:55   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02 13:31     ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09  8:12     ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-10-12  7:19     ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-10-12 13:46       ` George Dunlap
2015-10-13  1:46         ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-10-13 13:15           ` George Dunlap
2015-10-13 13:19             ` George Dunlap
2015-10-13 13:30             ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-14  2:29             ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-10-08 14:41   ` Ian Jackson
2015-10-08 14:54     ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-08 15:16       ` Ian Jackson
2015-10-12  7:00     ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-09-25  2:11 ` [PATCH V7 4/7] libxl: add libxl_device_usb_assignable_list API Chunyan Liu
2015-10-01 11:32   ` George Dunlap
2015-09-25  2:11 ` [PATCH V7 5/7] xl: add pvusb commands Chunyan Liu
2015-10-01 17:02   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02 13:35     ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-02 15:17       ` George Dunlap
2015-10-02 15:29         ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09  7:15     ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-09-25  2:11 ` [PATCH V7 6/7] xl: add usb-assignable-list command Chunyan Liu
2015-10-06 16:55   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07  8:40     ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07  9:55       ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 10:08         ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 10:10       ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 10:15         ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 10:35         ` Christiane Groß
2015-10-07 11:09         ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 11:20           ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 11:25             ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 11:32               ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 11:37               ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 11:39                 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 11:43                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 11:39               ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 11:49                 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 11:55                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 12:05                     ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 12:51                       ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 13:21                       ` George Dunlap [this message]
2015-10-07 13:54                         ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 14:05                           ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-07 14:26                             ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 14:35                               ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 14:47                                 ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 15:03                                   ` George Dunlap
2015-10-07 15:13                                     ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-07 14:10                           ` George Dunlap
2015-09-25  2:11 ` [PATCH V7 7/7] domcreate: support pvusb in configuration file Chunyan Liu
2015-10-07 15:06   ` George Dunlap

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