Re: RFC: LTS and stable release scheme

[Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>]

On 10/08/2015 01:34 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 08.10.15 at 12:59, <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>> Jan Beulich writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] RFC: LTS and stable release scheme"):
>>> Perhaps there's room for further automation here, yet as with
>>> any automation the question is how quickly getting this in place
>>> will amortize itself.
>>
>> Even with the current situation I think much more automation would be
>> good.  (But then I'm someone who really (a) likes automating things
>> (b) likes sitting back and watching the automation do its thing and
>> even (c) likes debugging the automation when it goes wrong.)
>>
>> I think that maybe as a starting point, Jan and I could agree that
>> instead of build-testing our backports locally, we will throw them at
>> osstest and see what sticks.
>
> Well, yes, we could. Otoh the overhead of fixing something that
> didn't build but got committed already means more mechanical
> work (revert, or create a fixup patch) compared to fixing it before
> pushing to the respective staging tree.
>
> What I would see as possibly useful would be a queue like thing
> where backports could be added, and automation would take
> care of committing and pushing as much of it as it can validate
> to build (more severe problems are pretty rare in stable trees,
> and hence relying on the normal osstest there like we do now
> would seem reasonable). Yet again this would mean one may
> have to turn attention to the respective tree more often (since
> right now this is needed just once for each batch of backports,
> unless something really odd happens).

Couldn't that purely mechanical work be spread to others? I can't
believe this would require exceptional skills and I think your
time is to precious for stuff like that.

In the beginning the workflow could be the same as yours today,
there would be just the queue you mentioned and someone either
doing the builds and committing or just look after the results
of any automatism. It just wouldn't be you.


Just my 0.02€, Juergen


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