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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Meng Xu <mengxu@cis.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] xen: sched: make locking for {insert, remove}_vcpu consistent
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 16:20:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <561689B6.4020306@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56168479.60703@citrix.com>

On 08/10/15 15:58, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 29/09/15 18:31, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 29/09/15 17:55, Dario Faggioli wrote:
>>> The insert_vcpu() scheduler hook is called with an
>>> inconsistent locking strategy. In fact, it is sometimes
>>> invoked while holding the runqueue lock and sometimes
>>> when that is not the case.
>>>
>>> In other words, some call sites seems to imply that
>>> locking should be handled in the callers, in schedule.c
>>> --e.g., in schedule_cpu_switch(), which acquires the
>>> runqueue lock before calling the hook; others that
>>> specific schedulers should be responsible for locking
>>> themselves --e.g., in sched_move_domain(), which does
>>> not acquire any lock for calling the hook.
>>>
>>> The right thing to do seems to always defer locking to
>>> the specific schedulers, as it's them that know what, how
>>> and when it is best to lock (as in: runqueue locks, vs.
>>> private scheduler locks, vs. both, etc.)
>>>
>>> This patch, therefore:
>>>  - removes any locking around insert_vcpu() from
>>>    generic code (schedule.c);
>>>  - add the _proper_ locking in the hook implementations,
>>>    depending on the scheduler (for instance, credit2
>>>    does that already, credit1 and RTDS need to grab
>>>    the runqueue lock while manipulating runqueues).
>>>
>>> In case of credit1, remove_vcpu() handling needs some
>>> fixing remove_vcpu() too, i.e.:
>>>  - it manipulates runqueues, so the runqueue lock must
>>>    be acquired;
>>>  - *_lock_irq() is enough, there is no need to do
>>>    _irqsave()
>> Nothing in any of generic scheduling code should need interrupts
>> disabled at all.
>>
>> One of the problem-areas identified by Jenny during the ticketlock
>> performance work was that the SCHEDULE_SOFTIRQ was a large consumer of
>> time with interrupts disabled.  (The other large one being the time
>> calibration rendezvous, but that is a wildly different can of worms to fix.)
> Generic scheduling code is called from interrupt contexts -- namely,
> vcpu_wake()

There are a lot of codepaths, but I cant see one which is definitely
called with interrupts disables.  (OTOH, I can see several where
interrupts are definitely enabled).

> , which for the credit scheduler wants to put things on the
> runqueue.  Lock taken in interrupt context => interrupts must be
> disabled whenever taking the lock, yes?

Correct, which is the purpose of the ASSERT()s in the _irq() and
_irqsave() variants.

> There may be a way we can revise the whole scheduling system to separate
> locks taken in an interrupt context from other locks (for instance,
> having a special "wake" queue which is drained in schedule() or
> something) but it's not as simple as just switching all the locks over
> to non-irq.

I did not wish to imply that this is trivial to achieve.  I am entirely
willing to believe that it might involve changes of logic to achieve.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-08 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-29 16:55 [PATCH 0/9] xen: sched: improve (a lot! :-D) Credit2 runqueue handling Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 1/9] xen: sched: fix an 'off by one \t' in credit2 debug dump Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  5:22   ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-08 14:09   ` George Dunlap
2015-09-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 2/9] xen: sched: improve scope and placement of credit2 boot parameters Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  5:23   ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01  7:51   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01  8:17     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 3/9] xen: sched: make locking for {insert, remove}_vcpu consistent Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 17:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-09-29 21:40     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 21:56       ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-30  9:00       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-08 14:58     ` George Dunlap
2015-10-08 15:20       ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-10-08 16:46         ` George Dunlap
2015-10-08 17:23           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-08 20:44             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-12  9:44             ` George Dunlap
2015-10-08 20:39         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-09 13:05           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-09 16:56             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  8:03   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01 11:59     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 4/9] xen: sched: add .init_pdata hook to the scheduler interface Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  5:21   ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01  6:33     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  7:43       ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01  9:32         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-01  9:40           ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  8:17   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01  9:26     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 10:12       ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01 10:35         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01 10:47           ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 5/9] xen: sched: make implementing .alloc_pdata optional Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  5:28   ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01  6:35     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  7:49   ` Jan Beulich
2015-10-01  8:13     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 6/9] xen: sched: implement .init_pdata in all schedulers Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 7/9] xen: sched: fix per-socket runqueue creation in credit2 Dario Faggioli
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 8/9] xen: sched: allow for choosing credit2 runqueues configuration at boot Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  5:48   ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-01  7:23     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  7:46       ` Juergen Gross
2015-09-29 16:56 ` [PATCH 9/9] xen: sched: per-core runqueues as default in credit2 Dario Faggioli
2015-10-01  5:48   ` Juergen Gross

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